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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 12:51:02 PM »

Has anyone seen De Toth's House of Wax

To be slightly original for a change; it's a cult classic. It has its moments.

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 04:56:02 PM »

Do want. Actually I have it but no matching subs so now looking for another version. I tried without but can't understand anything. Must be their accents... I watched a lot of movies without subs.

Definitely a must see for me, I love Robert Ryan. (Did he ever play a nice character?  Evil)

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 02:38:57 AM »

(Did he ever play a nice character?  Evil)

He sorta tried in The Professionals: sadly, they didn't take him very seriously. Cheesy

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 05:51:33 AM »

He's Randolph Scott's sidekick in Trail Street. And I don't know if they count, but he played tortured heroes in The Woman on the Beach and The Set-Up.

But maybe your question was only rhetorical. He was awfully good in not-nice roles. I can't help thinking he would have been better casting for a lot of pictures he never played in. For example, can you imagine how much better Treasure of the Sierra Madre would have been with Ryan in the Bogart role?

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 07:11:09 AM »

But maybe your question was only rhetorical.

Naw... you think?

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 09:01:58 AM »

Definitely a must see for me, I love Robert Ryan. (Did he ever play a nice character?  Evil)

The Proud Ones, The Set-Up (where he's at least not the villain), The Longest Day come to mind.

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2011, 03:24:41 PM »

Did he ever meet Lee on screen? That would be badass-fest...


He definitely was a great baddie and one of those actors who rarely see the end credits alive.  Afro Also, creepiest SMILE ever. And very expressive eyes.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2011, 05:26:33 PM »

Did he ever meet Lee on screen? That would be badass-fest...

Van Cleef? Marvin? Majors?

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2011, 05:41:26 PM »

Van Cleef.  Afro

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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2011, 05:58:37 AM »

Most of de Toth's westerns are average B-pictures.

But with a bigger budget and a better script he was very good. 8/10

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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2011, 05:52:32 PM »

Watched finally. Still no subs but quite understood. Wasn't too complicated.

I just can't have enough of Ryan! He was brilliant. In this too. Always badass. And I also liked Burl Ives, brave old guy he makes and he's not all-bad either.


Now off to hunt down more Ryan films.  Wink Or maybe to re-watch Billy Budd AGAIN - he was so born for that.

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2011, 06:02:08 PM »

Day of the Outlaw (1959) - 8/10

Snow: YAY! Total Great Silence feeling.
Ryan: awesome like Prussia. No, MORE awesome than Prussia.
Ives: nice, quite honourable old dude, and getting surgery without brandy: badass
Woman: pretty. Would have been good Spaghetti material.
Gang: some of the could be in Tigrero's gang easily.

I liked that there's no all-good or all-bad character, the whole thing looked more realistic this way. But the end... why let the anti-hero live? I thought he'd get Redemption Equals Death, because that's what this type usually gets. And he goes back... husband still lives, problem isn't solved.

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 02:13:50 AM »

Yes, Ryan was a fantastic actor. Very charismatic.

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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2011, 03:27:03 AM »

Jill Ryan's also in a LOT of great Film Noir.

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2011, 10:47:25 AM »

I know, and I love noir, so those come next.  Afro

He just had the kind of face so good for these tough-guys... but his eyes sometimes betray he was actually nice.


I just thought: what if he played Frank Miller? It was an awfully short role and I can't even recall the actor, but if Ryan would get off that train he would seem much more sinister and dangerous. And not some random guy whom we're supposed to see as the Big Bad but who's upstaged by the young LVC.

Also, a role that never found him but he'd surely rock in it: Javert. Just imagine his sarcasm and those trademark half-smirks and those stares. Plus he was a master in playing inner conflicts while looking stoic at first.


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