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« on: December 07, 2003, 01:28:12 PM »

Johnny Guitar is on tonight at 8PM eastern TCM it was one of the movies used for the storyline of OUTITW, check it out or record it if you can.

Its been called the first lesbian western, should be interesting, lol.

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2003, 08:21:51 PM »

kid:          i didn't get your name stranger.
johnny:    guitar, johnny guitar.
kid:          you call that a name ?
johnny:    care to try and change it ?  Grin


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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2004, 08:00:38 AM »

just been watching johnny guitar, supposedly the primary influence on Once upon a time in the west. Definitely influenced it - the powerful woman, the railroad, the instrument-playing drifter, the gang culture of the men in suits & the general revisionism of the hollywood western. especially impressed with the power of joan crawford and mercedes mccambridge's characters - a complete reversal of conservative hollywood westerns.

a fantastic film and a great forerunner of spaghetti westerns in general.

i thought the searchers was the first revisionist western but now its probably johnny guitar!!!

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2004, 10:47:02 AM »

sterling hayden, had that mysterioso stranger in town thing going.

KID: i didn't get your name stranger.
JOHNNY: guitar, johnny guitar.
KID: you call that a name ?
JOHNNY: care to try and change it ?  

Actresses Joan Crawford and Mercedes McCambridge fought both on and off camera. One night, in a druken rage, Crawford scattered the costumes worn by McCambridge along an Arizona highway. Cast and crew had to collect the outfits.  Grin
   

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2004, 03:55:56 AM »

anyone else see this spaghetti western forerunner yesterday on bbc two or ever before?

damn good film

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2004, 05:09:07 AM »

DJimbo, you got to be kidding me right? For me,
I could barely watch it, it was very campy, the sets were cheap, paper mache rocks, Joan's costumes looked ridiculous, it was called the first lesbian western by some critics, lol, though I wouldn't go that far. I could go on and on.

But you are spot on on the story elements and even some of the diologue.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2004, 03:12:18 PM »

it woz a bit camp but then we're talking hollywood western pre-spaghettis so thats par for the course. i just think theres a lot more substance in johnny guitar than the average john wayne flick (the searchers and the man who shot liberty valance excepted).

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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2004, 03:13:31 PM »

actually sets were cheap but tell me a non-leone spaghetti western where they aren't.

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2006, 09:51:20 AM »

Surely the point is that by the time JG was made, location shooting for outdoor scenes in Westerns was standard. Ray ignored this practice, perhaps unwisely. But then, he probably wasn't really interested in the genre anyway.

Maybe JG is a Western for people who don't like Westerns?

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 07:42:52 PM »

I enjoyed watching the various quotes that Leone used otherwise it was a little overly melodramatic and the sets looked a bit cheap. Mercedes McCambridge & Joan Crawford were pretty bizzare characters.

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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2007, 05:31:47 AM »

Personally, I really disliked this film, of value to me only because Leone drew from it so well.  I thought Mercedes McCambridge & Joan Crawford were both horrible characters and terrible acting.  And Johnny was super clean-cut, not realistic at all.  And that hole behind the waterfall to the hide-out......

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2007, 11:37:08 AM »

I'm with Cusser, a lot of paper mache' looking rocks for my taste. A bit too cheap production wise, and not up there with the best AW's. Leone showed what could be done with its basic building blocks.

I just got done watching OUTITW and every frame of that film you could cut out put it in a picture frame and hang on a wall, its beyond good.

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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2007, 01:02:57 PM »

I enjoyed Johnny Guitar very much. The sets are VERY cheap, but it's overall a very entertaining movie.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2007, 04:28:48 PM »

joan crawford would have made a good frank. 

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2007, 05:33:12 PM »

joan crawford would have made a good frank. 


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