Author Topic: Just dug out my old laserdisc...  (Read 21364 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Groggy

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 11458
  • This post gets Agnew's stamp of approval!
    • View Profile
    • Ambulatory Nonsense
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2009, 10:17:01 AM »
DVD Savant is far from an "idiot".

Saturday nights with Groggy

Offline The clint

  • Gunslinger
  • ****
  • Posts: 154
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2009, 08:42:19 PM »
His comments on the DYS docs are inexcusable though.

Offline Big Boss 1971

  • Bandido
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 07:11:07 PM »
Remember the shooting off hat scene......I could've sworn it also featured Manco shooting a hole in a coin yet no such scene present last time I saw it ??
Boss : You are a fool , the police will laugh at you ! (Big Boss , 1971)

Offline Jordan Krug

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 577
  • Crazy bellringer was right....
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 07:25:50 PM »
I've never heard anything about that coin shooting. You're prob thinking of another spag western, or maybe it's in one of the leone parody westerns?

Offline Big Boss 1971

  • Bandido
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2009, 03:51:42 PM »
No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason  :-\

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you ;)
« Last Edit: September 24, 2009, 03:53:05 PM by Big Boss 1971 »
Boss : You are a fool , the police will laugh at you ! (Big Boss , 1971)

Offline Jordan Krug

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 577
  • Crazy bellringer was right....
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2009, 06:09:47 AM »
No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason  :-\

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you ;)

Interestingly enough the american poster features a coin with a bullet hole through it...hmmmmm



Offline Dirty Rat

  • Gunslinger
  • ****
  • Posts: 281
  • Just like the greasy rat that you are.......
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2009, 02:30:01 PM »
No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason  :-\

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you ;)

I think you are remembering things incorrectly old boy......

Offline Big Boss 1971

  • Bandido
  • ***
  • Posts: 119
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 06:01:03 AM »
Yeah prolly.......is it not possible that there's alternate versions out there , for example 1 Asian version of Game of Death had an extra scene not seen in other versions.
Boss : You are a fool , the police will laugh at you ! (Big Boss , 1971)

Offline Jordan Krug

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 577
  • Crazy bellringer was right....
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 01:24:50 PM »
It's certainly possible, but in this case a bit unlikely as the italian cut of fafdm is the longest known cut to exist internationally...with most of Leone's cut's the italian is considered the "director's cut", so if there were such a shot, it would probably appear in that version. Also, I've collected Leone books, stills, interviews etc etc for almost 15 years and I've never heard mention of this, doesn't mean that you're wrong, but it seems kind of unlikely being that nobody else has ever mentioned this part of the scene...

Offline Lil Brutto

  • Gunslinger
  • ****
  • Posts: 459
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2011, 08:38:01 PM »
...I pulled out my old laserdisc of the film and it's the complete version, with those moments and in sync, just like my old pan and scan vhs. And it's letterboxed...

-old mgm pan and scan vhs (and now as I recently discovered also the letterboxed laserdisc- although I looked at it again and it's 1:85, not 2:35) has a slightly different intro on Eastwood - specifically, when he lights his cigar in the rain, a thunderclap is heard as he reveals his face (all other versions have this thunderclap before he lifts his head)...*then he walks off screen*...also has the small scene after the beating (of Indio and Groggy discussing their next move...) and a second of extra indio laughing during his intro that cuts better with the poster.....this is basically the same as the italian version (but the italian version has more of the beating itself-specifically a moment when Eastwood's arms are held and he is booted in the back - you can see this version on youtube)

:( arrrrgggghhhhh - turns out my laserdisc is yet ANOTHER version, it's missing the line "he said his name was Manco" and the 2nd and 3rd gunshots by indio intro the jail wardens office!!! too many VERSIONS!!!!

Jordan, I'm a little confused...you mentioned your LD has 1.85:1 aspect ratio AND is letterboxed. The "full screen" LD (left pic) is not letterboxed (on my TV). Or perhaps the widescreen edition LD (right pic) is 1.85 instead of 2.35? (I'll have to check.)

The beating scene in the widescreen edition LD is cut but Indio's laugh and the White Rocks scene are uncut. As you mentioned, "his name is Manco" and the shooting of the warden scenes are also cut.

Which of the following laserdiscs do you have?

« Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 11:12:53 PM by eurospec19 »
I was an honest farmer. Now I'm Lil Brutto!

Offline Jordan Krug

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 577
  • Crazy bellringer was right....
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2011, 07:54:10 AM »
The one on the right, and you're right, it's not the proper 2:35 aspect...about a year ago I downloaded a dvd version of the film that a fan put together, it is the full Italian cut with English audio...so if a random fan can do it, why can't MGM (or whoever owns MGM these days)

Offline Lil Brutto

  • Gunslinger
  • ****
  • Posts: 459
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 03:36:00 PM »
Do you have a link to that torrent? I'd love to have it.

UPDATE: I did some digging and I believe you were referring to LeoneNut's uncut version. Unfortunately, the rapidshare links no longer exist.  :(
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 06:20:24 PM by eurospec19 »
I was an honest farmer. Now I'm Lil Brutto!

Offline Jordan Krug

  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 577
  • Crazy bellringer was right....
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2011, 09:59:34 AM »
Do you have a link to that torrent? I'd love to have it.

UPDATE: I did some digging and I believe you were referring to LeoneNut's uncut version. Unfortunately, the rapidshare links no longer exist.  :(

Yes, that's the one...if you'll pay for shipping I'll send you a copy...P.M. me

Offline Lil Brutto

  • Gunslinger
  • ****
  • Posts: 459
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2011, 02:04:04 PM »
Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely take you up on it! I'll send you a PM now.
I was an honest farmer. Now I'm Lil Brutto!

Offline drinkanddestroy

  • Global Moderator
  • Bounty Killer
  • *****
  • Posts: 8642
  • trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders?
    • View Profile
Re: Just dug out my old laserdisc...
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2011, 03:57:46 PM »
just found this on youtube; claims to have the full beating scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQp9rnsuEk
There are three types of people in the world, my friend: those who can add, and those who can't.