Just dug out my old laserdisc...

[Groggy]

DVD Savant is far from an "idiot".

[The clint]

His comments on the DYS docs are inexcusable though.

[Big Boss 1971]

Remember the shooting off hat scene......I could've sworn it also featured Manco shooting a hole in a coin yet no such scene present last time I saw it ??

[Jordan Krug]

I've never heard anything about that coin shooting. You're prob thinking of another spag western, or maybe it's in one of the leone parody westerns?

[Big Boss 1971]

No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason 

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you

[Jordan Krug]

No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason 

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you

Interestingly enough the american poster features a coin with a bullet hole through it...hmmmmm

[Dirty Rat]

No I'm not......the truth is I *never* watch other westerns besides these.....kid you not !

It could've been Mortimer.....I vividly remember it for some reason 

LOL , hope this won't trun into like the Big Boss saw scene : is it out there or does memory play tricks on you

I think you are remembering things incorrectly old boy......

[Big Boss 1971]

Yeah prolly.......is it not possible that there's alternate versions out there , for example 1 Asian version of Game of Death had an extra scene not seen in other versions.

[Jordan Krug]

It's certainly possible, but in this case a bit unlikely as the italian cut of fafdm is the longest known cut to exist internationally...with most of Leone's cut's the italian is considered the "director's cut", so if there were such a shot, it would probably appear in that version. Also, I've collected Leone books, stills, interviews etc etc for almost 15 years and I've never heard mention of this, doesn't mean that you're wrong, but it seems kind of unlikely being that nobody else has ever mentioned this part of the scene...

[Lil Brutto]

...I pulled out my old laserdisc of the film and it's the complete version, with those moments and in sync, just like my old pan and scan vhs. And it's letterboxed...

-old mgm pan and scan vhs (and now as I recently discovered also the letterboxed laserdisc- although I looked at it again and it's 1:85, not 2:35) has a slightly different intro on Eastwood - specifically, when he lights his cigar in the rain, a thunderclap is heard as he reveals his face (all other versions have this thunderclap before he lifts his head)...*then he walks off screen*...also has the small scene after the beating (of Indio and Groggy discussing their next move...) and a second of extra indio laughing during his intro that cuts better with the poster.....this is basically the same as the italian version (but the italian version has more of the beating itself-specifically a moment when Eastwood's arms are held and he is booted in the back - you can see this version on youtube)

arrrrgggghhhhh - turns out my laserdisc is yet ANOTHER version, it's missing the line "he said his name was Manco" and the 2nd and 3rd gunshots by indio intro the jail wardens office!!! too many VERSIONS!!!!

Jordan, I'm a little confused...you mentioned your LD has 1.85:1 aspect ratio AND is letterboxed. The "full screen" LD (left pic) is not letterboxed (on my TV). Or perhaps the widescreen edition LD (right pic) is 1.85 instead of 2.35? (I'll have to check.)

The beating scene in the widescreen edition LD is cut but Indio's laugh and the White Rocks scene are uncut. As you mentioned, "his name is Manco" and the shooting of the warden scenes are also cut.

Which of the following laserdiscs do you have?

[Jordan Krug]

The one on the right, and you're right, it's not the proper 2:35 aspect...about a year ago I downloaded a dvd version of the film that a fan put together, it is the full Italian cut with English audio...so if a random fan can do it, why can't MGM (or whoever owns MGM these days)

[Lil Brutto]

Do you have a link to that torrent? I'd love to have it.

UPDATE: I did some digging and I believe you were referring to LeoneNut's uncut version. Unfortunately, the rapidshare links no longer exist. 

[Jordan Krug]

Do you have a link to that torrent? I'd love to have it.

UPDATE: I did some digging and I believe you were referring to LeoneNut's uncut version. Unfortunately, the rapidshare links no longer exist. 

Yes, that's the one...if you'll pay for shipping I'll send you a copy...P.M. me

[Lil Brutto]

Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely take you up on it! I'll send you a PM now.

[drinkanddestroy]

just found this on youtube; claims to have the full beating scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQp9rnsuEk