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Lac qui Parle
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« on: June 06, 2008, 09:59:26 AM »

I remembered something from this movie that I always enjoyed. (So I might as well post it.)

When Juan reaches the Mesa Verde bank, there is a scene where he is witness to an execution by firing squad. I can't remember exactly, but I think there were 3 men being killed, and each one reacts differently to the confrontation of death. One is stoic, one covers his eyes and one spits on a political poster.

I always like that scene because I thought it captured the varying outlooks of the people towards their oppressors: cold displacement, fear and rebuke.

What a great, powerful set up. And without any dialogue. Now that is fine story telling.  Afro




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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 11:29:48 AM »

  I'd have to go back and watch it, but isn't that "Monkey See, Monkey Hear, Monkey Do" that Leone is having some fun with? Or at least I think that's what they call it. Afro


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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 12:57:47 PM »

  I'd have to go back and watch it, but isn't that "Monkey See, Monkey Hear, Monkey Do" that Leone is having some fun with? Or at least I think that's what they call it. Afro



I wondered about that too. But my version is much more beautifulSmiley

Plus... now that I think about it... one guy might have been drinking a beer. Hey, if you're going go, go out in style!

Someone who owns this DVD, please do go check it out and let me know.

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 01:23:44 PM »

I think there were 3 men being killed, and each one reacts differently to the confrontation of death. One is stoic, one covers his eyes and one spits on a political poster.
Rather than cover his eyes, I think one of the men actually turns his back to the firing squad. IIRC, he's in a uniform and kinda looks like Mussolini.

I don't think the 3 are supposed to represent anything other than 3 individuals who have different responses to their impending fate.

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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 02:19:45 PM »


I don't think the 3 are supposed to represent anything other than 3 individuals who have different responses to their impending fate.

It's not that they were supposed to, it's that they do. And I think that's great.

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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 04:37:46 PM »

Rather than cover his eyes, I think one of the men actually turns his back to the firing squad. IIRC, he's in a uniform and kinda looks like Mussolini.

Jenkins, you're thinking of the guy at the train station later on.

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 04:48:01 PM »

Right, I realize that now. There sure are a lot of executions in that film.

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2008, 07:29:55 AM »

A1, you are great! Thanks for helping reassess that scene.

It's a little different than I remember. The guy in the middle kisses a photo and I thought he was covering his eyes. It still makes a nice little metaphor about death and the emotional undercurrent of the city.

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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 11:49:23 AM »


Modern day location picture taken in Guadix can be seen here.

http://www.ramon.btinternet.co.uk/sw/dys_compix.html




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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 02:43:57 PM »

Modern day location picture taken in Guadix can be seen here.

I love this board. This is great! Did you take these?

Here’s a dumb question... is it more green because of the time of year the shots were taken, or the advent of better irrigation systems?

I’m sorry, that was just my first observation.

Also, what exactly is the “Guadix, the azucarera.” I tried to translate it and it came back “sugar.”

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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 04:00:39 PM »


Yes I took all the photos on my site, the earliest back in 1980 when Sweetwater looked like it did in 1968. The comparison photos are in recent years from around 2000 onwards. I tend to avoid the hottest time of the year so the land is definately greener, plus there is more irrigation and agriculture which has been advancing in recent years quite rapidly.

The azucarera is the sugar factory, a lot of the buldings there are falling down and pretty dangerous. Its very close to Guadix railway station, additional railway tracks were layed for that scene in the movie.

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 07:50:32 PM »

cheers Ramon. awesome site. many thx  Afro

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