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« on: June 17, 2008, 02:05:08 AM »

What's your opinion of this Paul Newman western?

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 04:03:27 AM »

One of my favorites. Excellent year with RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, LIBERTY VALANCE, LONELY ARE THE BRAVE (RIDE being the only one shot in color!).
For me the LAST HURRAH of US westerns. Then the Italians took over (and when they lost it, America was back with WILD BUNCH, TRUE GRIT, LITTLE BIG MAN...)

Martin Ritt & Newman made 5 films together, this was the third as I recall. THE LONG HOT SUMMER is another one of my favorites.
HUD always seemed to me as a forerunner to THE LAST PICTURE SHOW. Excellent acting & story telling. Done with taste and ambition. The anti-hero really got established in the 70's, HUD was quite early on the surface then. A brillant film.

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 01:48:02 PM »

One of my favorites. Excellent year with RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, LIBERTY VALANCE, LONELY ARE THE BRAVE (RIDE being the only one shot in color!).
For me the LAST HURRAH of US westerns. Then the Italians took over (and when they lost it, America was back with WILD BUNCH, TRUE GRIT, LITTLE BIG MAN...)

Martin Ritt & Newman made 5 films together, this was the third as I recall. THE LONG HOT SUMMER is another one of my favorites.
HUD always seemed to me as a forerunner to THE LAST PICTURE SHOW. Excellent acting & story telling. Done with taste and ambition. The anti-hero really got established in the 70's, HUD was quite early on the surface then. A brillant film.


I can't wait to see it. This is one of those westers that I haven't gotten around to viewing, unfortunately.

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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 12:12:54 AM »

Fantastic film. It's not a Western, though.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 01:44:17 PM »

Absolute motherfucking masterpiece. Maybe even Newman's greatest film. A modern day western.


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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 02:24:34 PM »

If it's a Western, why isn't this thread over in "Other Films." Oh, that's right, it already is: http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=7448.0

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2008, 02:49:54 PM »

Fantastic film. It's not a Western, though.

Well, it is a modern-day western and belongs over here in Other Films.  Afro

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 03:02:53 PM »

There is no such thing as a "modern day Western." A Western, by definition, is set in the 19th Century (or anyway, before the First World War).

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2008, 03:08:52 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2008, 03:23:41 PM »

There is no such thing as a "modern day Western." A Western, by definition, is set in the 19th Century (or anyway, before the First World War).

I dunno about that. There's no exact definition of a western. Films like "The Three Burials of Melquides Estrada" in my opinion have strong western influences. It's just set in modern-day. To me, you wouldn't just call that film a drama.

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2008, 06:43:33 PM »

I dunno about that. There's no exact definition of a western. Films like "The Three Burials of Melquides Estrada" in my opinion have strong western influences. It's just set in modern-day. To me, you wouldn't just call that film a drama.
why not? that like me calling an asian movie a kung fu movie. Hard Boiled has what i would percieve as martial arts influence but at the end of the day its still a cop movie.

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 07:14:45 PM »

What does the word "Western" connote? Something that happens in "the West", a semi-fictional land that ceased to exist in U.S. history in Feb. 1912 when Arizona became the 48th--and last (continental)--state. If you have stories or films that don't occur in that setting, yet incorporate some of the conventions of the Western--conventions that occur in other genres as well--you don't have a Western, you have an adventure story.

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 07:18:08 PM »

What does the word "Western" connote? Something that happens in "the West", a semi-fictional land that ceased to exist in U.S. history in Feb. 1912 when Arizona became the 48th--and last (continental)--state. If you have stories or films that don't occur in that setting, yet incorporate some of the conventions of the Western--conventions that occur in other genres as well--you don't have a Western, you have an adventure story.

Well, a lot of writers refer to some films as "modern" day westerns. I've seen it numerous times. I'm not saying I disagree with you on everything you said but that term is commonly used.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 07:47:20 PM »

Understood, but I don't accept false categories, even when commonly used.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 10:06:09 PM »

If it's a Western, why isn't this thread over in "Other Films." Oh, that's right, it already is: http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=7448.0
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