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« on: September 01, 2008, 12:32:14 AM »

In the scene where Tuco finds Blondie about to shoot down another bandit, he grabs Blondie's gun.  Blondie looks at the guy about to be hanged and asks Tuco if that's 'Shorty'.   Tuco looks, then turns to Blondie and says "No".   How does he know if it's Shorty or not?  I've often wondered this.  Perhaps Tuco met up with him somewhere or they were in the same jail together perhaps?  Or did Tuco just tell Blondie that to be 'smart' and 'snide'?   Just curious.  Thanks in advance for shedding some light on this.   Wink

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 03:54:48 AM »

I think Blondie asks: "What about Shorty?", by which he means: "Can I save Shorty before you take me with you?". And Tuco answers: "No." So Blondie lets Shorty hang. Nothing indicates that Tuco would know Shorty.

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 04:26:51 AM »

I agree with MS here. Don't think he knew him, the camera merely caught him.

(And the actor that played him wasn't even credited, as you can see. Grin)

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 12:37:01 AM »

LOL - after all that guy went through, being hung on a rope - and he wasn't even credited - shame on Sergio - lol.

In that scene, it sounded like Blondie was asking Tuco, "Was that Shorty"?   After all the times I've seen the movie, I still couldn't figure out if Blondie was asking Tuco if it was Shorty or what - lol.    Thanks, guys, for clearing that up!   Wink

With Tuco's long history of being a bandit, I'm actually surprised that he didn't know him. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008, 02:39:36 AM »

In the italian version (can I say it is the original version?) the dialogue has exactly the same meaning as explained by moviesceleton. Blondie asks Tuco if Shorty could be saved and Tuco replies "no".
Then Blondie says "Sorry, Shorty" meaning "he doesn't want to keep you alive".
Nothing let us think that Tuco knew Shorty somehow.
So I think this was the real intention of the authors.

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008, 02:59:01 PM »

The dialogue is quite simple

Blondie.....And Shorty?

Tuco.........No!

Blondie.....No?

Tuco.........shake of head

Crack of Whip

Creak of rope

Blondie.....Sorry Shorty!


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008, 11:06:08 PM »

Gotch'ya, ICE - thanks for that clarification - and to everyone for clearing up that 'hard-to-understand' line from Blondie - lol.   Afro

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 02:12:46 AM »

The dialogue is quite simple

Blondie.....And Shorty?

Tuco.........No!

Blondie.....No?

Tuco.........shake of head

Crack of Whip

Creak of rope

Blondie.....Sorry Shorty!


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Right, it is the literal translation of the italian dialogue and the meaning is exactly the same.

Italian dialogue:

Biondo:  E Shorty?
Tuco: No
Biondo:  No?
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Biondo: Spiacente Shorty!




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