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« #5985 : May 07, 2009, 03:14:05 PM »

I like the second half a lot. Especially the clearing of Hue: I always get the feeling that that is what it was really like.



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« #5986 : May 07, 2009, 03:15:10 PM »

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« #5987 : May 07, 2009, 03:23:35 PM »

The whole sniper scene is absolutely brilliant. Kubrick foresakes an epic showy battle scene for the sake of a small-scale, metaphorical representation of the Vietnam mess.



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« #5988 : May 07, 2009, 03:53:38 PM »

That's the oldest cliche of film criticism in the books

So?




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« #5989 : May 07, 2009, 04:12:50 PM »

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« #5990 : May 07, 2009, 04:23:33 PM »

The whole sniper scene is absolutely brilliant. Kubrick foresakes an epic showy battle scene for the sake of a small-scale, metaphorical representation of the Vietnam mess.
That's not MY take. Vietnam or Iraq, modern urban warfare is all about combatants placing themselves into extremely lethal environments where the chance of emerging unscathed--physically or mentally--is very small. Harrowing, even vicariously.



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« #5991 : May 07, 2009, 04:33:38 PM »

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« #5992 : May 07, 2009, 06:56:16 PM »

I think you misunderstand my point. I'm not advocating any particular method of adaptation here. I'm just saying there are many, many ways a film version of the play can be rendered, and although the one version we have (so far) is good, there may be better versions yet to come. The way the film is, it is just a particular production, one that happened to get filmed. But plays are constantly being revived: that is their nature. I can certainly imagine a version with different--and possibly better--performances, and I say that even though I find no fault with the acting in "92".

Finally, I wasn't even thinking of "opening out" the play to make it seem more cinematic--I was thinking more along the lines of simply employing cinematic grammar more. I agree that adding a feeling of claustrophobia can be helpful--but one doesn't need to resort to stagy-ness for that, cinema has its own methods of conveying claustrophobia (cf. Das Boot).

well, the feeling is much easier to capture in a submarine than your typical office setting, lol. I understand what you're saying to an extent, but GGR is a dialog/performance driven movie, and I honestly can't imagine any way of improving it - any suggestions I can offer would be of the nitpicking variety. I just feel that this particular movie has to feel  a bit "stage-y"in order for it to be successful. Now, if we were discussing a movie like The Big Knife, I'd completely agree with you.



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« #5993 : May 08, 2009, 06:30:22 AM »

The 12 Angry Men-Glengarry Glen Ross comparison is valid to an extent. The difference is, however, that one is great while the other is not so much.



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« #5994 : May 08, 2009, 07:39:01 AM »

I agree that 12 Angry Men is very cinematic.



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« #5995 : May 08, 2009, 11:50:30 AM »

The 12 Angry Men-Glengarry Glen Ross comparison is valid to an extent. The difference is, however, that one is great while the other is not so much.

well, you're blatantly wrong, sir.

what makes 12 AM so "cinematic"? lenses? b+w?



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« #5996 : May 08, 2009, 12:09:53 PM »

That's the oldest cliche of film criticism in the books, and it isn't any more valid the 1,000,000th time it's repeated than the 999,999th time.
So what if its cliche? It doesn't mean he can't say it, especially if it's true. And I know most will agree.

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« #5997 : May 08, 2009, 12:47:25 PM »

That's the oldest cliche of film criticism in the books, and it isn't any more valid the 1,000,000th time it's repeated than the 999,999th time.

how is that argument not valid again?



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« #5998 : May 08, 2009, 01:19:51 PM »

Because the second half is at least as good as, if not better than, the first half. At any rate, argument by consensus in no argument at all.



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« #5999 : May 08, 2009, 01:22:45 PM »

what makes 12 AM so "cinematic"? lenses? b+w?
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