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« #10095 : January 24, 2012, 06:20:20 AM »

Wow, you guys are deep. You agree with every bromide the filmmakers wanted to express. You could be teaching Film Studies classes.



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« #10096 : January 24, 2012, 10:00:30 AM »

Wow, you guys are deep. You agree with every bromide the filmmakers wanted to express. You could be teaching Film Studies classes.

Well, we can't all waste... er, spend our time dealing in semantical genre debates. O0

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« #10097 : January 24, 2012, 12:18:06 PM »

Any more ridiculous than sacrificing oneself for an abstract concept like patriotism? Which is the film's point.

as I said, I only watched the last hour or so, so I didn't get patriotism as any big theme of the movie, at least during the part I saw.

Of course there are times it's important to fight to defend yourself, but I certainly wouldn't fight for the abstract concept called "patriotsim," whic is often just a euphemism for politicians' whims/self-interest. With that said, I sure as hell would have fought in WWII; that was certainly necessary.


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« #10098 : January 24, 2012, 02:58:01 PM »

The real important question though is whether The Train is a war movie, a noir or a P.I. film. Or possibly neo-PI.



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« #10099 : January 24, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »

The real important question though is whether The Train is a war movie, a noir or a P.I. film. Or possibly neo-PI.

I say it's post-modernism/neo-realism, with a bit of neoconservatism and paleolibertarianism. aka "if Ron Paul was a P.I."


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« #10100 : January 24, 2012, 05:55:44 PM »

Belle de jour (1967) - 6/10. First Blu-ray viewing, and the news is good: Criterion gets Catherine Deneuve's fleshtones right. Man, what a beautiful broad. The film itself is rather simplistic: "real" scenes alternate with fantasy scenes, until at the end reality and fantasy are collapsed into a single continuum. You can see why this kind of thing might have appealed to the 60s art film set; it was another puzzle film in the wake of Marienbad and Blow-Up, but with the promise of some skin. Buńuel was being a bit of a tease there, but he did deliver one shot of Deneuve's bare ass.

Hugo (2011) - 3/10. In Real 3D. Midway through this dull children's adventure film it turns into an even duller bio-pic of movie pioneer Georges Méličs (Ben Kingsley). Lots of "wonder of cinema" talk but very little actual cinematic wonder. And Howard Shore continues to offend with another mediocre score.



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« #10101 : January 24, 2012, 06:05:19 PM »

You must like that Hugo got more Oscar nominations than any other film this year.



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« #10102 : January 24, 2012, 09:29:06 PM »

You must like that Hugo got more Oscar nominations than any other film this year.
My general policy is to ignore the foolishness of awards and awards ceremonies.



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« #10103 : January 24, 2012, 10:37:44 PM »

My general policy is to ignore the foolishness of awards and awards ceremonies.

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« #10104 : January 25, 2012, 01:56:27 AM »

Hugo (2011) - 3/10. In Real 3D. Midway through this dull children's adventure film it turns into an even duller bio-pic of movie pioneer Georges Méličs (Ben Kingsley). Lots of "wonder of cinema" talk but very little actual cinematic wonder. And Howard Shore continues to offend with another mediocre score.

There are a few good ideas and the Melies montages work perfectly. Rendering real Melies movies in 3D is the greatest use of 3D ever.



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« #10105 : January 25, 2012, 06:17:39 AM »

Rendering real Melies movies in 3D is the greatest use of 3D ever.
I don't disagree. Even Mark Kermode, famous 3-D hater, praises the film for its use of 3-D. But that's all the film has going for it.



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« #10106 : January 25, 2012, 06:43:22 AM »

Il momento della veritŕ / The Moment of Truth (1965) - 8/10. Francesco Rosi had a great idea: film a feature about bullfighting with the lead played by a real matador (Miguel Mateo 'Miguelín'). That way the "actor" (who happens to have movie-idol looks) could do all his own stunts. Rosi had a second good idea: film all the contests with 300mm lenses--just as real sporting events of the time did to provide that "up close and personal" feel--so that the audience could actually see that the guy was doing his own stunts. The result: an intense feature that seems like a documentary (the opposite of the recent Senna, which this reminded me of, which is an intense documentary that seems like a feature). The only false note is the goring of the matador at the end--it's obviously contrived to put over something that didn't happen. But the deaths of the bulls aren't staged (I estimate we see about 20 kills). Cinéma vérité or Cine veritŕ? Either way, there is truth in blood. Not for PETA members or the squeamish.



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« #10107 : January 25, 2012, 02:31:22 PM »

Il momento della veritŕ / The Moment of Truth (1965) - 8/10. Francesco Rosi had a great idea: film a feature about bullfighting with the lead played by a real matador (Miguel Mateo 'Miguelín'). That way the "actor" (who happens to have movie-idol looks) could do all his own stunts. Rosi had a second good idea: film all the contests with 300mm lenses--just as real sporting events of the time did to provide that "up close and personal" feel--so that the audience could actually see that the guy was doing his own stunts. The result: an intense feature that seems like a documentary (the opposite of the recent Senna, which this reminded me of, which is an intense documentary that seems like a feature). The only false note is the goring of the matador at the end--it's obviously contrived to put over something that didn't happen. But the deaths of the bulls aren't staged (I estimate we see about 20 kills). Cinéma vérité or Cine veritŕ? Either way, there is truth in blood. Not for PETA members or the squeamish.
Yeah, that's a good one O0

The Prestige (2006) - 8/10
Nolan's best? Probably.

Shame (2011) - 9/10
It's not a perfect film but it's probably a (flawed) masterpiece. I was literally shaking when I walked home from the theater.


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« #10108 : January 26, 2012, 02:06:08 AM »


Shame (2011) - 9/10
It's not a perfect film but it's probably a (flawed) masterpiece. I was literally shaking when I walked home from the theater.

I found the movie very well done but extremely empty. The storyline is exactly what anyone would guess if you tell them "it's a movie about a sex addict, and being sex addict is shameful". Have you seen Hunger? It was even more flawed, to me, but at least Steve McQueen was really talking about something there. It was also far more powerful to me.



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« #10109 : January 26, 2012, 02:14:24 AM »

I don't disagree. Even Mark Kermode, famous 3-D hater, praises the film for its use of 3-D. But that's all the film has going for it.

The huge flaw is the story, isn't it? I mean how can you make a whole movie where the plot is only backed up by so called secrets that everyone knows? Nothing at all happens in this movie. Nothing is ever at stake, they are all looking for secrets when they perfectly know what the secret is... It's very weird. I've seen it more than a month ago now and I cannot figure out how they pulled off 2 hours of nothing.

Appart from that, the universe of the movie is very cool, and had Scorsese edited the comic scenes of the people in the station in his own regular way (fast pacing) they would have been very good. Slowing them down "for kids" was a terrible mistake: the subtlness is completely lost by slowing down such scenes.



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