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« Reply #10530 on: June 08, 2012, 01:52:42 AM »

Prometheus

Hard one to rate.

8/10 : Great "adventure" first part, cool characters, great effects, nice use of 3D (no overuse: the movie is actually quite flat, except for CGI, which, as we now know, look much better in 3D. What looks especially cool in 3D are holograms.), all in all gorgeous cinematography, true adventure feel, nice vision of our future (the inventions you see in the movie are believable, the ergonomics of the spaceship are believable...), a few übercool scenes.

2/10 : far less exciting second half, "cool characters" are not used (while bad ones are), lots of ridiculous dialogues (few in the first half, then more and more), lots of incoherence, a few weirdly/badly done scenes, most creatures look terrible (very videogamish, while other CGI look gorgeous), more and more faith/parenthood nonsense (if you're gonna do Blade Runner, you'll need to have real depth in the movie and some utterly crazy dialogues like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears_in_rain_soliloquy, or your movie will suffer a lot).

5/10 : the "Alien" part. The movie gains nothing (and loses nothing, to me) by claiming to be part of the Alien universe. On the other hand, the Alien quadrilogy gains/looses nothing either.

I guess it has to be seen at least once, for the underlined part at least. I'll probably buy the BD, because I have to learn a lot from it. All in all, i'd say it's got the begining of the first Alien, the action part of an "average" alien movie (think Aliens or Alien 3), and the whole thing is brought down by stupid dialogues and botched themes, probably added by a script doctor after version 1 or 2 of the script.

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« Reply #10531 on: June 08, 2012, 07:58:29 AM »

Alien
Might be the greatest sci-fi movie ever made. Aside from ship blowing up at the end, the greatest use of special effects ever as well.

Blade Runner
Not nearly as good as I remembered. I also don't understand the overwhelming love for the 'tears in rain' speech.

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« Reply #10532 on: June 08, 2012, 08:58:50 AM »

Prometheus had the best use of 3D I've seen, alongside with Pina. Still I'm not sure if it actually added anything valuable to the experience.

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« Reply #10533 on: June 08, 2012, 09:10:39 AM »

Blade Runner
Not nearly as good as I remembered. I also don't understand the overwhelming love for the 'tears in rain' speech.

That speech tells me pretty much everything I need to know about life and death. And it tells it beautifully.

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« Reply #10534 on: June 08, 2012, 09:17:21 AM »

Prometheus had the best use of 3D I've seen, alongside with Pina. Still I'm not sure if it actually added anything valuable to the experience.

I have not seen Pina but Prometheus uses 3D just like avatar, doesn't it? Which means very little (even more little with Prometheus I think). It's gets you (a bit) more into the universe, and it improves dramatically every kind of CGI (have you ever seen Avatar flat? all the CGI suck), except, maybe, explosions.

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« Reply #10535 on: June 08, 2012, 01:12:45 PM »

That speech tells me pretty much everything I need to know about life and death. And it tells it beautifully.
fair enough. it is a great soliloquy, I guess it just doesn't affect me as much as it affects other. I'm just surprised it's so renowned to even have its own Wikipedia page.

I guess the final moments of life of Pvt. Witt in The Thin Red Line (for me) accomplishes similarly and much more powerfully the same thing the Tears in Rain speech states ...and much more... without any use of dialogue.

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« Reply #10536 on: June 08, 2012, 02:26:14 PM »

I have not seen Pina but Prometheus uses 3D just like avatar, doesn't it? Which means very little (even more little with Prometheus I think). It's gets you (a bit) more into the universe, and it improves dramatically every kind of CGI (have you ever seen Avatar flat? all the CGI suck), except, maybe, explosions.
Avatar was also good but it still had stuff thrown at you and things like that. I have not seen it flat and never intend to. The trailer looks awful enough in 2D.

I grant that 3D probably draws you a bit more into the movie (actually, human faces are often the most interesting thing in 3D movies) but the glasses on your nose and the dim image kinda ruin that effect.

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Chris Marker's essay film, a fresco, about the socialist movements around the world in the 60s and 70s. I saw the 177 min version assembled in 1993 (the original four-hour cut of the movie premiered in 1977). It's hard to believe but the film really holds you in its grip for the whole three hours. It's not a history lecture or great analysis, but it's a hell of a film. If it even has a message, it has more to do with the concept of history rather than historical events or political left/right. Can't really rate it (roughly 8-9.5/10) but I highly recommend it.   

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« Reply #10537 on: June 08, 2012, 08:33:37 PM »

Senso (1954) 6/10

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« Reply #10538 on: June 09, 2012, 08:16:35 PM »

Dog Day Afternoon - 8/10 - One of the most intense thrillers ever. Lumet wisely focuses on the protagonists, making the robbery and its ludicrous escalation easy to follow. Though this approach undermines Lumet's thematic pretensions re: the media and anti-Establishment backlash, dramatically it's the right play. The ending is a real shocker though I guessed something like it was coming. This is probably Pacino's best performance, and he's surroundeded by an excellent supporting cast: Chris Sarandon, John Cazale, Charles Durning. Keep an eye out for Lance Henriksen.

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« Reply #10539 on: June 10, 2012, 01:57:21 AM »

Only 8 for "One of the most intense thrillers ever" ?

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« Reply #10540 on: June 10, 2012, 06:31:34 AM »

Yeah.

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« Reply #10541 on: June 10, 2012, 08:15:55 AM »

Yeah.

useless fact: I used to pass that area all the time; the bank where this story happened -- the real story, not the filming of the movie --  was at Avenue P and East 3rd street in Brooklyn, a mile from my house, half a mile from where my mom and her parents would have been living at the time. There is a park across the street from the bank, deserted at night, which hosted many a late-nite piss from yours truly during a walk home after a night partying  Wink

maybe I'll take pictures next time I pass that street

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« Reply #10542 on: June 10, 2012, 01:12:59 PM »

useless fact: I used to pass that area all the time; the bank where this story happened -- the real story, not the filming of the movie --  was at Avenue P and East 3rd street in Brooklyn, a mile from my house, half a mile from where my mom and her parents would have been living at the time. There is a park across the street from the bank, deserted at night, which hosted many a late-nite piss from yours truly during a walk home after a night partying  Wink

maybe I'll take pictures next time I pass that street

Cool, would be interested in seeing them. Afro

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« Reply #10543 on: June 10, 2012, 04:49:42 PM »

The Last Gangster (1937) 7/10 pretty good but predictable yarn. Below is an IMDb review:


Unpromising material, but excellent drama, 29 August 2004
Author: mgmax from Chicago
There are a lot of theoretical strikes against this movie-- Robinson playing a Capone lookalike for the zillionth time (right before he switched mainly to playing them for comedy in things like A Slight Case of Murder and Brother Orchid); post-Code MGM instead of pre- Code Warner Bros., which surely means a softer handling of the gangster theme; a no-name director and female co-star, Jimmy Stewart in a thankless good guy role; and, not least, a sort of gangster Sin of Madelon Claudet plot in which Robinson gets to get weepy about not knowing his son while he's in Alcatraz.

And amazingly, it's all handled remarkably freshly-- and toughly, especially from the point where the movie pulls the rug out from under big shot Robinson with a long and realistically bleak prison train sequence. Almost every opportunity to sink into cliche is rethought to find a fresher angle-- instead of the archetypal Warner Bros. tough-guy prison, with the warden acting like a crime boss himself to keep his charges in line, the movie's Alcatraz is a streamlined, impersonal machine for reducing men to numbers, the striking production design as institutionally cold as the manner of the warden. The classic welcome home from the boys (such lovable gangster lugs as Lionel Stander and Edward Brophy) takes a highly unexpected turn-- and keeps turning. Although the scenes where he finally meets his son again are hampered by unrealistic dialogue for the kid, in all this is a strong and thoughtful adult drama which brings emotional realism back to a genre usually riddled with cliches.

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« Reply #10544 on: June 10, 2012, 05:30:55 PM »

Cool, would be interested in seeing them. Afro

ok, I will do so next time I'm there.


Wikipedia has this photo of the bank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LFChaseP1975.jpg

The building is now a Medical Imaging Center http://www.google.com/maps?q=450+avenue+P+brooklyn,+NY&hl=en&ll=40.609119,-73.970483&spn=0.000474,0.000947&sll=40.60843,-73.976634&sspn=0.008047,0.015149&t=h&hnear=450+Avenue+P,+Brooklyn,+Kings,+New+York+11223&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.609106,-73.970604&panoid=hZKkJtzRZdunfmFC1D33Qg&cbp=12,190.46,,0,3.31


Looks like it is the same structure and the exterior has not been altered, even has the same parking lot

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