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« Reply #12765 on: December 03, 2013, 04:22:36 PM »

If a drug hasn't been tested or is shown to be dangerous then I don't see what moral leg you have to stand on.

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« Reply #12766 on: December 03, 2013, 04:39:21 PM »

Joe - 6/10 - Peter Boyle and Dennis Patrick murder hippies. Tries to be a satire/commentary on the Generation Gap, but it's alternately pretentious and exploitative - sort of a conservative Billy jack.

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« Reply #12767 on: December 03, 2013, 04:56:21 PM »

If a drug hasn't been tested or is shown to be dangerous then I don't see what moral leg you have to stand on.

I have the most important moral leg in the world: freedom. I don't think government has the right to tell adults what substances they can put into their own bodies. Once upon a time the gov't did the same thing with alcohol. Maybe drugs are more dangerous than alcohol, but the moral issue is the same. I wouldn't advise people to put harmful drugs into their own bodies; certainly, it's not smart for someone to do that unless a doctor tells him to. But ultimately, every adult should be allowed to do whatever he wants to with his own body.

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« Reply #12768 on: December 03, 2013, 05:00:59 PM »

That's nice, but such laws are meant to curtail sale of dangerous substances to consumers, not vice versa. We're not talking about marijuana or cocaine here. Presumably you read The Jungle and cheered for the meatpacking plant.

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« Reply #12769 on: December 03, 2013, 05:49:04 PM »

I'm talking about what harm people can do to themselves; not what harm one person can inflict upon another; your freedom ends when it begins to harm another's. But as long as consumers know what they are getting, then they should be allowed to buy anything.
I didn't see the movie so I don't know the exact details about what was going on. I'm just saying that people should be allowed to obtain anything they want to, even that which is harmful to themselves (but of course, there cannot be any fraud/deception in packaging).

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« Reply #12770 on: December 03, 2013, 10:23:12 PM »

The Last Gangster (1937) 7/10 pretty good but predictable yarn. Below is an IMDb review:


Unpromising material, but excellent drama, 29 August 2004
Author: mgmax from Chicago
There are a lot of theoretical strikes against this movie-- Robinson playing a Capone lookalike for the zillionth time (right before he switched mainly to playing them for comedy in things like A Slight Case of Murder and Brother Orchid); post-Code MGM instead of pre- Code Warner Bros., which surely means a softer handling of the gangster theme; a no-name director and female co-star, Jimmy Stewart in a thankless good guy role; and, not least, a sort of gangster Sin of Madelon Claudet plot in which Robinson gets to get weepy about not knowing his son while he's in Alcatraz.

And amazingly, it's all handled remarkably freshly-- and toughly, especially from the point where the movie pulls the rug out from under big shot Robinson with a long and realistically bleak prison train sequence. Almost every opportunity to sink into cliche is rethought to find a fresher angle-- instead of the archetypal Warner Bros. tough-guy prison, with the warden acting like a crime boss himself to keep his charges in line, the movie's Alcatraz is a streamlined, impersonal machine for reducing men to numbers, the striking production design as institutionally cold as the manner of the warden. The classic welcome home from the boys (such lovable gangster lugs as Lionel Stander and Edward Brophy) takes a highly unexpected turn-- and keeps turning. Although the scenes where he finally meets his son again are hampered by unrealistic dialogue for the kid, in all this is a strong and thoughtful adult drama which brings emotional realism back to a genre usually riddled with cliches.

just saw this, I give it a 6/10

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« Reply #12771 on: December 03, 2013, 10:36:10 PM »

That Hamilton Woman (1941) 6.5/10

I caught this on TCM recently, but I'm really not a fan of period dramas and rarely watch them. So, it's not like many period dramas have a chance of getting a higher rating from me.... I liked Vivien Leigh and most of the rest of the cast; but I've never been a big fan of Laurence Olivier

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« Reply #12772 on: December 04, 2013, 01:41:23 AM »

The Hunter (1980) 6/10


What a disjointed movie this is. This movie doesn't have any idea what it wants to be. Or maybe it wants to be everything. But there's no coherent story just a bunch of slapped-together scenes. If you take each scene on its own, some are enjoyable, few are terrible. But it's not really like you're watching a single movie called The Hunter; it's more like there's a tv show called The Hunter and you're watching a few episodes in a row.

Okay, here's the movie - this post will contain spoilers, but really, there's no story here anyway, so I'm not ruining much. If you wanted to see this movie, you can still see it after reading this:

McQueen plays Ralph "Papa" Thorson, supposedly an old-time type of bounty hunter living in the modern day. He hunts down bail-jumpers for his boss, a bail-bondsman played by Eli Wallach! Of course, Eli is awesome as always, and can deliver lines with the best of them, but he only has like three scenes.

So, we see the fearless Thorson picking up bounties. And in between his scenes with the bounties and with Eli Wallach, there is a sub-plot where Thorson has a pregnant girlfriend; and also, a sub-plot in which a crook who was brought in by Thorson has just been released and is now gunning for Thorson and his girl.  The scenes with the girl are useless.
So, Thorson picks up bounties as he and his girlfriend prepare for the birth of their baby.
Then there's a moment where a cop friend of Thorson's kills himself; Thorson is distraught over his friend's suicide and then gets into a fight with his girl he tells her she's gotta be crazy to bring a child into a world like this, and he wishes she would abort the child and then she (temporarily) leaves him.

Then Thorson goes to Chicago to bring in a dangerous criminal, and this is one amazing action sequence here; as the criminal leads him on a chase and gun battle on a Chicago El train. Now, I would really love it if someone had info on how this was filmed, because it really, truly, honestly looks like McQueen (or more likely a stunt man) is actually hanging off a moving el train. Doesn't look like any rear-projection or miniatures or any other shtick; the camera pulls back with a wide shot, it appears to me that this is all really happening. Doesn't matter if it's McQueen or a stunt man; if that shit is really happening, that's pretty damn cool. The chase ends with a car chase in a leveled parking garage, the crook drives himself off, the car plunges like ten storeys into the Chicago River.

Anyway, Thorson then comes home from Chicago to find that the crazy con who was released from prison has kidnapped his girl... Eventually, there is a confrontation, a battle... and at the end of it, of course his girl goes into labor, and then Thorson has to drive her to the hospital and she gives birth to the baby..... in the front seat of the car. Final shot, the now-proud papa holding the baby. Whoopdy-do.  Roll Eyes

Maybe, this movie felt it was a biopic and therefore doesn't have to have any structure or story; they just wanna show episodes of Thorson's life to show us what a tough guy he was. Whatever. The bounty-hunting episodes are generally enjoyable; the episodes with the girl are generally useless; there are a few really good scenes, and very few that are terrible.

I'll end with a few lines by Roger Ebert, whose review on this movie largely sums up my feelings:

"... a screenplay that doesn't seem to have been written so much as compiled from random notes.
Because McQueen can be so effective in action pictures, The Hunter is all the more frustrating: Didn't anybody point out that the script was a mess that made no sense? Didn't anybody have the guts to? Maybe they thought superstar McQueen would save the day. Pictures like this could finish him off."


Sadly, as it turned out, that last line (which was really a reference back to the first paragraph of his review, where Ebert discussed how McQueen just about stopped working after The Towering Inferno) was prophetic, though not in the way Ebert meant it: Steve McQueen died three months after The Hunter was released.

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« Reply #12773 on: December 07, 2013, 06:53:54 AM »

Casino - 10/10

Perfection.

The Departed - 9/10

Not far.

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« Reply #12774 on: December 07, 2013, 01:02:00 PM »

Runaway Train (1985) - 5/10

Annoying all around.

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« Reply #12775 on: December 07, 2013, 06:24:02 PM »

Casino - 10/10

Perfection.

The Departed - 9/10

Not far.

I think I gave both films an 8/10

Rightly or wrongly, Casino is gonna be compared with Goodfellas, and it's not up to that immortal level (even though Sharon Stone, when she gets outta bed in the morning, is a hundred billion times hotter than Lorraine Bracco on her wedding night  Wink ). Maybe it suffers a bit for that. But Casino and The Departed are both really good movies.

I'm curious as to how Goodfellas compares with Casino in your opinion....

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« Reply #12776 on: December 08, 2013, 02:54:17 AM »

To me Goodfellas is a 9. They're both very close but Casino is just bigger, more ambitious. It's a movie about how a friendship, a romantic relationship, the mafia, Las Vegas and capitalism evolved in a few years. Goodfellas, as great as it is, is a docudrama about the day to day life of a gangster. This is a very cool concept but less ambitious.

I watch these 3 movies about once a year and they're all among the best written, shot and edited movies I have ever seen. In a different style, we're really into Leone's territory. Appart from David Fincher and Marty, nobody knows how to tell a story this way. The photography of Casino didn't age as great as the rest, and I'm pretty sure the photography of the Departed won't age well either. Appart from that, they will still be unique, technically perfect and more modern than most recent movies for decades. Thematically, the Departed is the weakest of the 3, but it's also the only one with real emotion.

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« Reply #12777 on: December 08, 2013, 06:15:33 AM »

They're both very close but Casino is just bigger, more ambitious. It's a movie about how a friendship, a romantic relationship, the mafia, Las Vegas and capitalism evolved in a few years.


No, capitalism doesn't include fraud/theft. Of course, lots of people in the world aren't honest, so no matter what economic system there is, there will always be fraud/theft. But capitalism doesn't mean doing whatever you want even if it's cheating someone else.


Call me a nitpicker, but I can't let these casual comments equating capitalism with fraud go by  Wink

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« Reply #12778 on: December 08, 2013, 06:17:35 AM »

what do you think of the music in The Departed?

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« Reply #12779 on: December 08, 2013, 07:16:35 AM »

To me Goodfellas is a 9. They're both very close but Casino is just bigger, more ambitious. It's a movie about how a friendship, a romantic relationship, the mafia, Las Vegas and capitalism evolved in a few years. Goodfellas, as great as it is, is a docudrama about the day to day life of a gangster. This is a very cool concept but less ambitious.

Agreed. It's probably the moralist in me, but I also like that Casino is nastier and less "look how cool it is to be a gangster" in its approach.

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