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« Reply #12915 on: January 01, 2014, 01:55:13 AM »

Watched American Hustle last night.  Nice pair - Amy Adams and Jennifer Lawrence and there's possibly some comedic value in changing the appearance of well known actors such as Christian Bale, Bradley Cooper and Jeremy Renner.  Bit of a waste though with such a good cast.  Enjoyed De Niro's brief appearance.  He reminded me of one of the real mob bosses from the 70s and the 'Casino' connection made me smile.   

IMDb's rating of 8.1 is way too high - for me 6.5/10 at best.

Perhaps my expectations were too high.

 

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« Reply #12916 on: January 01, 2014, 02:31:37 AM »

the tv trailers of American Hustle make it seem like a comedy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZietcDiu2s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAJfiUsdCRY

I did not think it was a straight comedy. Definitely some light moments which many dramas have but I would probably classify this as a comedy/drama, certainly not a straight comedy, which the trailer wants you to believe it is. IMDB just classifies this as Crime and Drama, and doesn't make mention Comedy at all. Anyway, I hate movies that wanna be comedy and drama, where you're not sure what the tone is. But it would be hard for me to classify it as a straight drama considering that there is never the slightest feeling that the anyone's actually gonna go to prison or otherwise pay for their crimes. If you haven't seen it yet, don't worry; I didn't spoil anything. The minute the movie begins, you'll see that there's never any doubt these people are not gonna get in trouble.

But whatever you classify it as, no doubt the current 8.1/10 rating on IMDB is way too high. (Once this movie gets the required 25,000 votes to qualify for the IMDB 250), is it gonna turn into another Django Unchained, a recent movie that somehow makes it onto the IMDB 250 at a ridiculously, insanely #53??? Is every popular new movie gonna start dethroning the all-time great classics?

Please. What IMDB should do is have separate lists for separate eras. You can't compare current films which, as soon as they are released, have every putz with a computer rushing to rate it with the classic films of the '30's, '40's, '50's, which have so many fewer votes. (Btw, I happened to notice that Out of the Past, which many noir fans (including myself) consider the greatest noir of all time, doesn't even have the required number of votes to qualify for the IMDB 250 (only aboyt 17,000 now).

BTW, speaking of new movies breaking into the 250: The Wolf of Wall Street (with about 20,000 votes) is currently at 8.8/10. If that rating sticks once the movie qualifies for the list, it could debut in the top 10 or 15.

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« Reply #12917 on: January 01, 2014, 03:44:58 AM »

I repeat, everybody should be required to watch a clip of Tony Clifton  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7JcKKej0DI  before watching American Hustle.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #12918 on: January 01, 2014, 03:50:39 AM »

Good notes. Why weren't you at the story conferences?

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I own the book. And actually, these notes have probably more in common with Yves Lavandier's La Dramaturgie than with McKee's work.


We're seeing the War on Terror from the American perspective - and once Chastain enters the picture, from her perspective. If the camera would go into the terrorist's hideout or camp or cave or wherever they operate and show us what's being planned, that would change the perspective to something the Americans and Chastain can't see. I'm fine with it being as it is. And I can be sad about the loss of lives even when it seems that the victims should have taken more precautions. War is a very ugly business. Aside from the "big picture winners and losers," there are a lot of individual stories, individual mistakes, bad decisions, regrets in hindsight, etc. Even if you run a brilliant war, you'll make at least a hundred mistakes. I am no less saddened by the loss of life over a mistake; and if that's how the attack actually happened, and how it appeared from the American perspective, then I have no problem with them showing it that way.

Actually we're seeing the war from Chastain's perspective appart from that particular scene (appart from a couple terrorist attacks but they only last 20 secondes or so and we always cut back to Chastain watching on TV as soon as possible), so the POV effect is already broken.

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« Reply #12919 on: January 01, 2014, 05:20:36 AM »

The Hoppla: An Expected Bore - CGI, 2012

The year ended not that good as I did what I shouldn't have done. Watched a Peter Jackson film which was not Braindead.
Ok, it wasn't as bad as expected, I only sometimes had to use the fast forward button. It even had some good stuff in it, so Peter Jackson is not the worst director alive, but still one who doesn't really know how to tell a story properly.
Still a ritzy film which tells an overlong story filled with mostly uninteresting characters (all those dwarfs are not that sexy) full of swank images in a too often visually yawning style. It's all too much to let anything breath.
The Gollum part was good and I enjoyed the dwarfs juggling the dishes.
At least it was more entertaining than LotR 1 and King Kong, but far from giving me any excitement. 5/10 (yeah, a bit generous)

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« Reply #12920 on: January 01, 2014, 11:13:46 AM »

Mean Streets (1973) 10/10

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« Reply #12921 on: January 01, 2014, 11:38:35 AM »

Enjoyed De Niro's brief appearance.  He reminded me of one of the real mob bosses from the 70s and the 'Casino' connection made me smile.   
Highlight of the film for me. I also enjoyed seeing Anthony Zerbe show up as the corrupt senator.

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« Reply #12922 on: January 01, 2014, 12:07:38 PM »

The Long Goodbye (1973) - 10/10. Altman's best, due in large part to Leigh Brackett's rock-solid plot construction. The new UK BD looks really good--too good, maybe? Wasn't the purpose of flashing the negative to reduce contrasts and make the colors more pastel-like? Some of the outdoor scenes in this new transfer look very different from all the indoor ones. Has the film always looked like this? Did they flash all the footage, or just some of it? These kinds of questions nag me and keep me from fully enjoying the film.

Nashville (1975) - 7/10. Criterion BD. The apotheosis of the Altman method. Two things count against the film. First, its biggest strength is its biggest flaw: a true ensemble piece, there is no protagonist to identify with. This is exactly what Altman set out to achieve and he succeeded. But drama demands a protagonist. Altman's experiment is worthwhile because it's an example of an alternative narrative strategy perfectly executed that nonetheless remains less interesting than traditional dramatic plotting. Thus it is not an example to follow (I note that when he made The Player, he modified his approach to allow for a true central character). The other problem with this film is Altman's attempts at satire. As we see in Brewster McCloud and Buffalo Bill & the Indians and other films as well as this one, Altman likes his satire very wet. Not my taste at all: give me Kubrick's drier touch.

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« Reply #12923 on: January 01, 2014, 04:48:11 PM »

The Wolf of Wall Street (2013) - 10/10. Martin Fucking Scorsese: can you believe this fucking guy?. His 3 hour film felt like only 90 fucking minutes. Abso-fucking-lutely hilarious. I laughed my fucking ass off all the way through. It's a fucking masterpiece!
http://www.slashfilm.com/the-wolf-of-wall-street-sets-record-for-uses-of-the-f-word-in-a-narrative-feature/

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« Reply #12924 on: January 01, 2014, 05:58:45 PM »

Operation Daybreak - 8/10 - Day of the Jackal-style thriller about the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich. Exceedingly well-crafted and tense, mixing action with authenticity and nicely measured drama. In particular, I liked the grotesque scene where Heydrich's servants stuff his corpse into military uniform moments after dying. One complaint is that the leads - Timothy Bottoms, Anthony Andrews and Martin Shaw - seem interchangeable; the supporting players register much more strongly.

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« Reply #12925 on: January 01, 2014, 09:55:07 PM »

I repeat, everybody should be required to watch a clip of Tony Clifton  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7JcKKej0DI  before watching American Hustle.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

why, cuz he has a big belly, fake hair, and sunglasses? So do a million other people. He sounds nothing like Bale's character

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« Reply #12926 on: January 01, 2014, 09:59:36 PM »

The Long Goodbye (1973) - 10/10. Altman's best, due in large part to Leigh Brackett's rock-solid plot construction. The new UK BD looks really good--too good, maybe? Wasn't the purpose of flashing the negative to reduce contrasts and make the colors more pastel-like? Some of the outdoor scenes in this new transfer look very different from all the indoor ones. Has the film always looked like this? Did they flash all the footage, or just some of it? These kinds of questions nag me and keep me from fully enjoying the film.


For me, Altman's best has to be McCabe & Mrs. Miller - not that I've seen all Altman films (far from it), but IMO M&MM is one of the 5 greatest AW's ever made, one of the 20-25 greatest movies of all-time. The Long Goodbye is very good, but not that good; I think I gave it an 8/10 when I saw it.

they definitely wanted the colors to look like the old postcards... if it doesn't look like that on the BRD (which I have not seen), then it be wrong. Have you seen the DVD? Do you think those colors are more accurate?

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« Reply #12927 on: January 02, 2014, 01:54:47 AM »


Solitary Man (2009) - 7/10

Nothing new really, but Mic Douglas saves the day (believe it or not).

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« Reply #12928 on: January 02, 2014, 03:29:32 AM »

why, cuz he has a big belly, fake hair, and sunglasses? So do a million other people. He sounds nothing like Bale's character

Fuck the sound He LOOKS like him, everytime you see him I think of Clifton, you must have some type of visual deficiency/impairment, it crops up constantly in your Noir reviews.  Grin Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #12929 on: January 02, 2014, 04:45:59 AM »

For me The Long Goodbye is also Altman's best.

And Solitary Man is a beautiful little film.

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