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« #19170 : July 03, 2020, 03:30:33 PM »

Also, it's definitely, unarguably a true 10/10, even though I don't even know why.
I can't give it a "10" because there are films by Wenders I like even better and I want to reserve the higher score for those.



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« #19171 : July 04, 2020, 10:37:29 AM »

I can't give it a "10" because there are films by Wenders I like even better and I want to reserve the higher score for those.

Which ones?
I've seen very few, but none of them came close to the cinematic power of Paris, Texas.


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« #19172 : July 04, 2020, 11:54:03 AM »

Every man's "cinematic power" differs. My fave Wenders are Wings of Desire and Kings of the Road. Wings maybe gets a "9" from me, but Kings is a "10." I'd give a "7" to The American Friend and Alice is probably an "8." I haven't quite figured out how to rate Every Thing Will Be Fine, but it might rate a "10."

Paris, Texas does have one flaw. There isn't enough wandering. Harry Dean Stanton has been wandering for 4 years prior to the beginning of the film, but we only see the tail end of it. Then his brother picks him up and it is nearly a straight line back to LA (there is one small digression, but again, off screen). When the decision comes to go to Houston it is another straight shot there, even to a very specific location. I expect more aimlessness in a Wenders film. Goalie, Alice, Falsche Bewegung, Kings, Wings, and Until the End of the World (though not a good film) are all about directionless movement. PT alludes to it, but largely elides it. Good as the film is, it always leaves me feeling just a bit short-changed.



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« #19173 : July 04, 2020, 12:01:17 PM »

"Knives Out"  average.

I thought one spot of evidence was too obvious and should've not been disclosed until the end.

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« #19174 : July 06, 2020, 01:05:32 AM »

I can't give it a "10" because there are films by Wenders I like even better and I want to reserve the higher score for those.

But your short review begs for a 10 ...

My Wenders 10ers are Der Stand der Dinge (1982, The State of Things) and Der Himmel ueber Berlin (1987, Wings of Desire). The State of Things got much praise on its release and won the Golden lion of the Venice Film Festival, but seems now to be a comparatively underrated film.
Other favourites are Alice, The American Friend, Paris Texas and yes, Every Thing Will Be Fine, his best film since an eternity.


I have to re-watch Kings of the Road and really should try the DC of Until the End of the World

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« #19175 : July 06, 2020, 06:18:49 AM »

On Wim Wenders:

Paris, Texas is obviously a 10. DJ, I'm not sure if you've seen the 5-hour Until the End of the World, but I think that's a 10 as well. As is Kings of the Road. The guy churns out 10's like its nobodies business. And I don't mean Hacksaw Ridge 10's... I mean real 10's. Would your 8/10 for PT change if I remind you that you gave Mel Gibson's silly WWII comedy a 10, which persuaded me to actually go see it? I'll never forgive you for that.

I haven't seen Wings of Desire in ages and I remember being very bored by it. I'm gonna get it at the next Criterion sale though, I've got a good feeling my opinion on that one will change.

Year of the Dragon (1985) - 8/10
Bad acting and dialogue, but the visuals and atmosphere are infectious. Maybe I'm generous with the 8, but it's highly enjoyable through its whole runtime, even during parts where it's a bit laughable and racist.

You've Got Mail (1998) - 8/10
Fun stuff even if Hanks' character is a bit too massively unlikable for a romcom.

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« #19176 : July 06, 2020, 04:20:40 PM »

On Wim Wenders:

Paris, Texas is obviously a 10. DJ, I'm not sure if you've seen the 5-hour Until the End of the World, but I think that's a 10 as well. As is Kings of the Road. The guy churns out 10's like its nobodies business. And I don't mean Hacksaw Ridge 10's... I mean real 10's. Would your 8/10 for PT change if I remind you that you gave Mel Gibson's silly WWII comedy a 10, which persuaded me to actually go see it? I'll never forgive you for that.
Sorry you didn't like HR, but my reviews, even when they're positive, are not to be taken as recommendations. I'm a little short at the moment (flying back and forth to the coast, doncha know), but I'll refund your ticket price as soon as my next stimulus check comes in.



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« #19177 : July 06, 2020, 04:30:26 PM »

Les Felins (1964) - Alain Delon, Jane Fonda, Lola Albright, together again for the first time. Wow, a performance by Fonda I actually like! Her badly accented French is charming, and that Naughty Kitten routine she does is pretty funny. The plot isn't bad and the dialog is witty. The locations in Nice are nice too. A film by Rene Clement: https://ok.ru/video/1676664900206
There is a new Blu from Gaumont out in France that reportedly has both the French and the English soundtracks. Ordered! I like this film more and more. Although it's not quite as good as Purple Noon, it is a worthy follow-up. 8/10.



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« #19178 : July 06, 2020, 09:51:48 PM »

You've Got Mail (1998) - 8/10
Fun stuff even if Hanks' character is a bit too massively unlikable for a romcom.
From what I remember, it's a respectable remake of The Shop Around the Corner with leads that elevate the material to some degree. However the main problem with the movie is the complete lack of visual flair, and that speaks to my broader point that I call The Overboard Effect -- where romcoms of the last 30+ years suffer greatly due to not being filmed in lush technicolor or B&W ie Overboard, When Harry Met Sally, Sleepless in Seattle, et al. I'm probably in the minority for my love of something like Jerry Maguire, but I think its status as a masterwork would be undeniable if it looked half as good as Some Came Running or even The Apartment.




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« #19179 : July 07, 2020, 11:11:32 AM »

From what I remember, it's a respectable remake of The Shop Around the Corner with leads that elevate the material to some degree. However the main problem with the movie is the complete lack of visual flair, and that speaks to my broader point that I call The Overboard Effect -- where romcoms of the last 30+ years suffer greatly due to not being filmed in lush technicolor or B&W ie Overboard, When Harry Met Sally, Sleepless in Seattle, et al. I'm probably in the minority for my love of something like Jerry Maguire, but I think its status as a masterwork would be undeniable if it looked half as good as Some Came Running or even The Apartment.
You're right... I don't think it necessarily bothers me, but yeah, it's a very "Screenwritery" movie. Nora Ephron in general is a very screenwritery filmmaker, she's less about style/visual flair and more about shooting the screenplay in a pretty boring way. I think it's fine, but even Sleepless in Seattle is more visually interesting than this.

Sorry you didn't like HR, but my reviews, even when they're positive, are not to be taken as recommendations. I'm a little short at the moment (flying back and forth to the coast, doncha know), but I'll refund your ticket price as soon as my next stimulus check comes in.
Haha, I'm just joking. Kind of. The battle scenes were worth most of the ticket price, but I do really dislike this movie as a whole.

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« #19180 : July 07, 2020, 12:24:46 PM »

The battle scenes were worth most of the ticket price . . .
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« #19181 : July 08, 2020, 10:15:12 AM »

You're right... I don't think it necessarily bothers me, but yeah, it's a very "Screenwritery" movie. Nora Ephron in general is a very screenwritery filmmaker, she's less about style/visual flair and more about shooting the screenplay in a pretty boring way. I think it's fine, but even Sleepless in Seattle is more visually interesting than this.
I like Ephron the writer because of her love of classic Hollywood, and part of me respects how ridiculously unpretentious her non style was, but it's not invisibly brilliant like a George Stevens or Richard Fleischer. I wish her directing was half as good as the writing, but overall I do like her best work and appreciate her (assumed) love of Wilder and Lubitsch.

Ephron is the Pearl Jam of the romcom movement. Had an underrated prime, most took her for granted and she influenced a ton of bad work that she got unfairly blamed for or associated with.



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« #19182 : July 09, 2020, 06:17:26 AM »

Ephron is the Pearl Jam of the romcom movement. Had an underrated prime, most took her for granted and she influenced a ton of bad work that she got unfairly blamed for or associated with.
That's a good way to put it. I love Pearl Jam but they're a subject of mockery for most at this point and it's all Creed's fault.

I listen to his podcast, Blank Check. You may like it. They cover whole director filmographies and manage to do a few a year. They're currently going through Ephron movie-by-movie. Before her was George Miller, Demme, Miyazaki, Mann, Spielberg, etc

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« #19183 : July 09, 2020, 10:09:45 AM »

The Duellists (1977) 8/10
Simple, effective, gorgeous to look at and cool as hell.


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« #19184 : July 09, 2020, 01:06:07 PM »

The Duellists (1977) 8/10
Simple, effective, gorgeous to look at and cool as hell.
I like it a lot too. Carradine and Keitel don't really convince as Frenchies, though.



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