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« on: September 30, 2008, 02:38:24 PM »

Hi to everyone of OUATITW’ admirers!
I suggest to specify all actors which appeared in the film as Frank’s gunfighters.

PLEASE, SEE PHOTOS OF ALL FRANK'S GUNMEN over here - click this link to my personal blog.
http://franksgang.blogspot.com/

Let's start with the epic opening scene.
Three gunmen take over an isolated train depot and settle in to wait for the train. Three hired killers sent by Frank.
So the leading killer is Snaky (actor Jack Elam).
His partners are Stony (actor Woody Strode) and Knuckles (actor Al Mullock).

1.
Snaky – actor Jack Elam.
2.
Stony – actor Woody Strode.
3.
Knuckles – actor Al Mullock (he ended his life with suicide).


Now we are going to McBain’s family massacre scene.

4 GUNFIGHTERS – 2 UNIDENTIFIED ACTORS. 

From left to right:

1.
Jim (in white hat) - actor John Frederick.

2.
A huge gunman with black beard – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR

3.
Frank himself – actor Henry Fonda.

4.
Frank’s principal lieutenant with black beard - actor Michael Harvey.
He asks famous question:
“What are we going to do with this one, Frank?”

5.
The gunfighter with blonde (or grey) hair and beard – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR



Scene around well. Harmonica kills two Frank’s gunmen – Logan and Jim.

2 GUNMEN – 1 UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR.


1.
Jim (in white hat) – actor John Frederick.
2.
Logan (in black hat) – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR


Next scene – on the train when Frank captures Harmonica.

3 GUNMEN – 2 UNIDENTIFIED ACTORS.

1.
The first appearance of the second Frank’s lieutenant (actor Benito Stefanelli), who informs Frank that someome killed Logan and Jim at McBain farm.

During the interrogation on the train there were another two Frank’s gunmen.

2.
One of them is again gunfighter with blonde (or grey) hair and beard - UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR

3.
Another one has massive chin and picturesque (scenic) moustache - UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR


Next scene – on the train when Cheyenne kills three Frank’s gunfighters which guarded Harmonica.

3 GUNMEN – 1 UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR.

1.
The sleeping gunmen shot by Cheyenne through window – actor Saturno Cerra.
2.
The gunman who was killed in second turn – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR  (probably it was Conrado San Martin, but I am not sure)
3.
The gunman who was shot through boot – actor Spartaco Conversi.


Poker game scene.
Mr. Morton joins a game of poker with four of Frank's men who are his captors. Instead of dealing out cards, he deals out five hundred dollars to each of the men to buy their allegiance to him.


4 GUNMEN – 1 UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR

1.
The first principal Frank’s lieutenant who gave permission to Morton to join poker game – actor Michael Harvey. He asks Morton (after Morton passed out 500 dollars each to four of Frank's men):
"How do you, uh - how do you play this game, Mr. Morton?"
2.
The second Frank’s lieutenant who sitting close by Mr. Morton – actor Benito Stefanelli.
3.
The gunman with a dimple in his chin – actor Aldo Berti.
4.
And again blonde (or grey) gunman – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR


Auction scene.

5 GUNMEN – 2 UNIDENTIFIED ACTORS

1.
Leading gunman reclining on sofa at auction – Antonio Molino Rojo.
2.
Shaved gunman (with bush-liked eyebrows) smoking pipe at auction – actor Frank Braña.
3.
Dreamboat gunman with black hat at auction – actor Fabio Testi.
4.
Gunman with heavy black beard (he standing close by Jill at auction) – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR
5.
Tall redhaired and redbearded gunman who intimidated the old man (actor Renato Pinciroli) which bids $200 in the auction – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR


Epic scene around arch – in flashback.
Gunfighters of young Frank’s gang.


4 GUNMEN – 4 UNIDENTIFIED ACTORS:

1.
Gunman leaning to the right support of the arch (in white hat) – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR
2.
Gunman leaning to the left support of the arch (in black hat) – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR
3.
Older gunman smiling with rotten tooth – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR
4.
Lying gunman with tomato – UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR

I know that American actor John Galloway was involved in this scene, but I don’t know which one of gunmen he played.



Who can help me to identify anonymous actors?



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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 08:38:57 AM »

In the poker game scene one of the actors is for sure Antonio Casas (Stevens in GBU). I don't remember which one exactly, I have to re-watch the scene, but it's him.

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 09:27:07 AM »

Dear Il Bruto!
Thanks for efforts to help!
But I am sure you're wrong. There were four poker players (without Mr. Morton). Two of them are Frank's lieutenants (actors Michael Harvey and Benito Stefanelli, stuntman and unofficial translator of Sergio Leone for english speaking actors). The third one is italian actor Aldo Berti.
I am sure that unidentified player with blonde (or grey) hair is not Antonio Casas.
Now I see his photo (I mean Antonio Casas). That's not him! 100%. Without any doubts. I think you mixed-up Antonio Casas and Michael Harvey.
 
 

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 06:43:25 PM »

Mr. Fed is right. Casas isn't in OUATITW.

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 04:37:42 AM »

Dear Mr Fed,
I saw the photos you put in your other topic. The one I indicated as Antonio Casas is the one you say is Michael Harvey.
It seems to me he's the same guy who pleyed the part of Stevens in GBU, if it is not they are identical! Maybe twins separeted after birth.
Are you sure he is Michael Harvey? How did you know it?

I'm sorry, but I don't know how to upload photos in the forum.

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 07:09:42 AM »

Dear il brutto!
Yes, Michael Harvey played the principal Frank's lieutenant. Without any doubts.
The reasons are:
1. First - Mickey Knox, who wrote all dialogues to the OUATITW, told about it. He invited Michael Harvey to OUATITW. Mickey Knox has suggested to Leone to use Michael Harvey as Frank's principal lieutenent. The stunman and translator Benito Stefanelli was invited for role of another lieutenant.
2. Second - I saw Michael Harvey in another westerns of Sergio Leone. I have a lot various photos of Michael Harvey and I know 100% that it was him. Not Antonio Casas. I agree with you that there is a formal resemblance, but... you are wrong - 100%. 
3. Third - there is no Antonio Casas in cast credits of OUATITW.

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 07:55:11 AM »

Dear il brutto!
Yes, Michael Harvey played the principal Frank's lieutenant. Without any doubts.
The reasons are:
1. First - Mickey Knox, who wrote all dialogues to the OUATITW, told about it. He invited Michael Harvey to OUATITW. Mickey Knox has suggested to Leone to use Michael Harvey as Frank's principal lieutenent. The stunman and translator Benito Stefanelli was invited for role of another lieutenant.
2. Second - I saw Michael Harvey in another westerns of Sergio Leone. I have a lot various photos of Michael Harvey and I know 100% that it was him. Not Antonio Casas. I agree with you that there is a formal resemblance, but... you are wrong - 100%. 
3. Third - there is no Antonio Casas in cast credits of OUATITW.


Ok you convinced me. Anyway the resemblance is amazing.

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 11:38:23 PM »

Paolo Figlia was credited as one of Frank's men. I'm not sure who that is, though.

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