The Wrestler (2008)

[Groggy]

Rocky's entertaining but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece.

I note unfortunately that this movie is playing nowhere near me, so unless I'm able to bootleg it somehow I'm going to pass.

[Tucumcari Bound]

I quite like it. I think I gave it 7/10 on IMDb. But no way it's in the same league with Raging Bull. And the main difference between those two movies is that in Rocky the fight is in the event to which the whole movie builds up to whereas in Raging Bull the fights are more or less on the background. So in this light, which movie does The Wrestler resemble more in your opinion?

I think you're wrong about Rocky. That film is not even about boxing as a whole but about one man's will to succeed and feel accepted. I don't even like the comparison between Raging Bull and Rocky. Raging Bull is a biopic where as Rocky isn't. Raging Bull is a bit more ambitous from a directing and editing standpoint whereas Rocky succeeds greatly in the story departement. It's all heart. The Wrestler has a lot of similarities in this regard. It's not so much about wrestling but more about the struggles of this man's everyday life and how he suffers from past mistakes.

[T.H.]

I definitely think it's in the top 100 greatest films of the 1970's. Are you kidding me. It's even on AFI's top 100 of all-time.

The AFI is a joke and I don't think Rocky is one of the best 100 of the 70s. It's decent, but far from a masterpiece or anything of the sort. I can see how some may love it for personal reasons, but I don't understand how anyone can really think Rocky is a landmark movie.

[Whalestoe]

The AFI is a joke and I don't think Rocky is one of the best 100 of the 70s. It's decent, but far from a masterpiece or anything of the sort. I can see how some may love it for personal reasons, but I don't understand how anyone can really think Rocky is a landmark movie.

Rocky 4 is clearly the best in the series. If he dies, he dies. DRAAAGOOO! Hearts on fire. God damn, time to put that movie on.

[T.H.]

the russian wilderness causes one's skin to darken.

[Tucumcari Bound]

The AFI is a joke and I don't think Rocky is one of the best 100 of the 70s. It's decent, but far from a masterpiece or anything of the sort. I can see how some may love it for personal reasons, but I don't understand how anyone can really think Rocky is a landmark movie.

Rocky is acted out and written brilliantly and it's direction by Avildsen is teriffic. It's definitely a landmark film.

[cigar joe]

Rocky is acted out and written brilliantly and it's direction by Avildsen is teriffic. It's definitely a landmark film.

What planet are you smokin'?

Its just a predictable film about a big dumb meatball, with the theme milked over & over again   

[Groggy]

Rocky is acted out and written brilliantly and it's direction by Avildsen is teriffic. It's definitely a landmark film.

I'll agree the acting isn't bad but the direction is cookie cutter seventies kitchen sink style. Nothing remotely remarkable about it.

[Tucumcari Bound]

What planet are you smokin'?

Its just a predictable film about a big dumb meatball, with the theme milked over & over again   

In the film world it only appears on best ever lists over and over again but within the Leone Forums of course it's considered terrible by snobs like you cigar. Go figure. I'm not surprised one bit. To call ROCKY subpar is blashemy and it is in my opinion that you're way off the mark.

haha, I laugh at some of you. The key word here is "some."

The real question is, what planet are YOU from cigar?

[Whalestoe]

I'll agree the acting isn't bad but the direction is cookie cutter seventies kitchen sink style. Nothing remotely remarkable about it.

HEEEAAARTS ON FIIIREEE! STRRROOONG DEEESIIIIRE!!!

I love the first Rocky. I don't think it's one of the greatest films of all time, but I could easily watch it anytime, anyday. Hell, I just watched the whole AMC Marathon for Rocky the other day.

[Tucumcari Bound]

I'm not talking about the sequels Whalestoe.

[Whalestoe]

I'm not talking about the sequels Whalestoe.

Cool? I'm telling you I like all the Rocky's. The first one isn't a masterpiece by any means. It's a fun movie, as are all the sequels that follow it.

[Tucumcari Bound]

Cool? I'm telling you I like all the Rocky's. The first one isn't a masterpiece by any means. It's a fun movie, as are all the sequels that follow it.

TO you it's not, to me IT IS. It's definitely a masterpiece that WON BEST PICTURE in 1976 and well deserving. It's one of the greatest films of the 1970's and is arguably the most inspiring piece of cinema of all-time.

[Whalestoe]

TO you it's not, to me IT IS. It's definitely a masterpiece that WON BEST PICTURE in 1976 and well deserving. It's one of the greatest films of the 1970's and is arguably the most inspiring piece of cinema of all-time.

Winning best picture =/= masterpiece. That's just a dumb way to justify anything. Return of the King won Best Picture too. Doesn't make it a great movie. I think you're getting uppity at the wrong guy here, I like Rocky a lot.... I guess just not as much as you do.

[Atlas2112]

yeah TB you really got cool your jets, leting the "it deserved its win" comment aside, do you really think its the most inspiring movie of all time? comon TB leave the hyperbole for the next presidential election.

and for the record i did enjoy rocky (not as much as IV though)