The Wrestler (2008)

[Tucumcari Bound]

Winning best picture =/= masterpiece. That's just a dumb way to justify anything. Return of the King won Best Picture too. Doesn't make it a great movie. I think you're getting uppity at the wrong guy here, I like Rocky a lot.... I guess just not as much as you do.

I never said all best pictures are masterpieces. There you go again speaking for me. I'm just letting you know that it won, and in my opinion, it deserved it. It's a masterpiece in my opinion and that's that. And DON'T call me uppity man. I'm far from it. Stating my opinion about the film doesn't make me uppity. I'm very passionate about the way I explain things and I'm getting sick and tired of some of you getting mad at that. Talk about uppity. Most of you are beyond that!

[Tucumcari Bound]

yeah TB you really got cool your jets, leting the "it deserved its win" comment aside, do you really think its the most inspiring movie of all time? comon TB leave the hyperbole for the next presidential election.

and for the record i did enjoy rocky (not as much as IV though)

My jets are cooled. You're another USER who obviously misunderstands me. I like this film, I think this film is GREAT and I'm not alone in that assesment. Yes, it's arguably the most inspiring movie of all-time. And I don't enjoy you bringing politics into this convo when it has nothing to do with it.

[Whalestoe]

I never said all best pictures are masterpieces. There you go again speaking for me. I'm just letting you know that it won, and in my opinion, it deserved it. It's a masterpiece in my opinion and that's that. And DON'T call me uppity man. I'm far from it. Stating my opinion about the film doesn't make me uppity. I'm very passionate about the way I explain things and I'm getting sick and tired of some of you getting mad at that. Talk about uppity. Most of you are beyond that!

Haha, I'm not mad at you. I think you're trying to justify Rocky being a good movie to the wrong person is all. And when you TYPE like THIS I assume you're being UPPITY. Especially when it's directed towards me. Anyway, <3 u.

[Atlas2112]

no, you see TB, I'm a POSTER, one who doesn't particular take kindly to your inference of being a drug USER (if that was your intention of capitalizing that word)

again, i understand you LIKING the film, i do too but this whole most inspirational movie of all time stuff is just bunk. Without bringing that Frank Capra QUACK (How inspirational was HIS porno?) there are just too many films to count that i would place ahead as BOTH being better films and more inspirational.

Politics? who's talking about POLITICS? I'm talking about HYPERBOLE, which is a word i now retract seeing as your level of exaggeration is not intentional and is quite literal. I MERELY bring up the election as one of the only places this level of exaggeration belongs (Along with Sporting events, and bad allegorical novels)

again, i like Rocky but clearly not as much as YOU do. (thats the last time i'll cap for emphasis again, i swear)

EDIT: CAP situation already brought up, my use of caps aren't satirical anymore but just insulting, ignore them please

[Tucumcari Bound]

Haha, I'm not mad at you. I think you're trying to justify Rocky being a good movie to the wrong person is all. And when you TYPE like THIS I assume you're being UPPITY. Especially when it's directed towards me. Anyway, <3 u.

I love you too!

[Tucumcari Bound]

no, you see TB, I'm a POSTER, one who doesn't particular take kindly to your inference of being a drug USER (if that was your intention of capitalizing that word)

again, i understand you LIKING the film, i do too but this whole most inspirational movie of all time stuff is just bunk. Without bringing that Frank Capra QUACK (How inspirational was HIS porno?) there are just too many films to count that i would place ahead as BOTH being better films and more inspirational.

Politics? who's talking about POLITICS? I'm talking about HYPERBOLE, which is a word i now retract seeing as your level of exaggeration is not intentional and is quite literal. I MERELY bring up the election as one of the only places this level of exaggeration belongs (Along with Sporting events, and bad allegorical novels)

again, i like Rocky but clearly not as much as YOU do. (thats the last time i'll cap for emphasis again, i swear)

EDIT: CAP situation already brought up, my use of caps aren't satirical anymore but just insulting, ignore them please

Hey, I originally said it was "arguably" the most inspirational film of all-time. I didn't see it was THE one. There are a lot of inspirational films and I think this is one of them. If someone said they thought it was the most inspirational then I just was stating they have a good argument. The film sure moves me.

[PowerRR]

I'd say Rocky is the most inspiring movie ever.

[Groggy]

HEEEAAARTS ON FIIIREEE! STRRROOONG DEEESIIIIRE!!!

I love the first Rocky. I don't think it's one of the greatest films of all time, but I could easily watch it anytime, anyday. Hell, I just watched the whole AMC Marathon for Rocky the other day.

That's where I watched it.

[Tucumcari Bound]

I'd say Rocky is the most inspiring movie ever.
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And then I'd say you have good taste Mr. Power.

[The Firecracker]

Its just a predictable film

Except for maybe the ending... no?
Or did everybody forsee him losing?

[moviesceleton]

Except for maybe the ending... no?
Or did everybody forsee him losing?

I didn't. That really raised the movie to a different class. But it still isn't a masterpiece.

[Groggy]

We don't learn he lost until the sequel, so I'm not sure how that counts.

Anyway... TB, perhaps you haven't noticed but you do often cite a film's success at the box office or critical acclaim as an argument for its quality. It's not "putting words in your mouth" at all, you do a good enough of job of that yourself. I remember the Forrest Gump thread.

[moviesceleton]

We don't learn he lost until the sequel, so I'm not sure how that counts.

We don't? I don't remember watching the sequel. Not entirely, anyway.

Anyway... TB, perhaps you haven't noticed but you do often cite a film's success at the box office or critical acclaim as an argument for its quality. It's not "putting words in your mouth" at all, you do a good enough of job of that yourself. I remember the Forrest Gump thread.

I kind of understand that approach in the sense that it means that many people think a film is good. They gotta think so if they choose to award it! But popularity really is no argument. It proves that certain people like certain movie but it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you if you don't agree with them. Commercial success, on the other hand, has nowadays very little to do with what people like. It's much more about the advertising than the word of mouth than it used to be. Besides, using this logic Thriller is the best album ever released

[Groggy]

Well from my viewing it ended with Rocky going the distance but no word on a decision - I suppose the fact that he went the distance was more important than whether he won or lost. They replayed the last few minutes of the fight at the beginning of Rocky II and they declare Apollo Creed the winner.

[Tucumcari Bound]

Rocky is a masterpiece, plain and simple.

And yes, if you're any bit of a boxing fan, you would have noticed he lost at the end of the first film. Plus, the ending was not predictable at the time when many viewers thought he was going to win.