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« #45 : January 22, 2009, 03:22:02 PM »

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« #46 : January 22, 2009, 03:33:43 PM »

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Ah! Yeah I suppose it is worth it.
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« #47 : January 22, 2009, 07:39:41 PM »

Chino for example is far from being a worse film. It's a leisurely made and calm western about the vanishing of the indians. Not a classic of course, but better directed and more intelligent than e.g. Soldier Blue.
Truth is, chino is not exactly a SW, it's an american western by an american director shot in spain.

that's like saying Manos: The Hands of Fate is metaphor for the breaking down of the traditional american family. Sorry, I don't buy your reasoning at all.

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« #48 : January 23, 2009, 02:53:18 AM »

that's like saying Manos: The Hands of Fate is metaphor for the breaking down of the traditional american family. Sorry, I don't buy your reasoning at all.

Never heard about this Manos film, but the possibility to interpret Chino in this direction is more than obvious if you watch the film carefully.
What else is the film about? There's not much action, and for a Bronson vehicle the film is also not too typical. Chino is quite unspectacular and I wished they had pruned down the few action scenes even more to barest minimum.

I don't care too much about Chino, cause it's far from being a masterpiece. The film doesn't go to deep into the characters and the acting is only ok at best. But there was the possibility to make a real good western out of the story.
At least it's much better than Sturges 2nd 70s western Joe Kidd.

I have different ideas about worse films.

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« #49 : January 23, 2009, 03:09:45 AM »

He reads a lot on them but I question the amount he's actually seen...

I wrote this some months back... It highlights my doubts about QT knowing a lot about the movies he claims to be a fan of...

The first Kill Bill movie is an entertaining revenge picture with no ending.
The second is pretty much a snooze fest (granted, there are some very good scenes with or without excellent action/fight scenes) with some of the worst dialogue ever. It was in this movie where I started to notice that he was flubbing in the department that got him into the spotlight in the first place.

This is being generous because both movies are meant to be seen as a whole film.
If I reviewed these two flicks as one whole picture I could only give it a negative review majorily for the pacing problems.

Death Proof is a complete debacle.
50 minutes of nothing but incessant chatter from characters who all think alike and talk alike.
QT's dialogue has become a parody of itself.
It just feels like some dude trying to be the Tarantino of the 90's but failing miserably, and the car chase...

...though good...

doesn't save the movie from being a total fart bomb.

Let me expand on the car chase a little...
 the car chase is good but nowhere near the quality of the car chases it was constantly compared to.
I commend him for not having CGI but just because he did doesn't make him the super master of the world as everybody thinks he is. The first Bourne, which I saw tonight and may I say it is much better than the two shit sequels that follow it, movie actually has a fine car chase with no CGI what so ever. The film preceded QT's chase by 5 years. I didn't remember anybody mentioning that in the reviews. No, the glory goes to Tarantino for making the first car chase without any CGI in "ages".

+, and I know this is an old subject that has been beaten to death but...

The dude practically ripped a bunch of stuff from other car chases that came before it then put it in his little movie.
Remember the scene where Stuntman Mike and the girls are seperated by a large pond and each party looks at each other from across the pond whilst heading for the edge of the body of water so their cars can meet and continue smashing eachother?
That whole segment is directly ripped from a car chase in Special Cop in Action starring Maurizio Merli.
The guy even has the audacity to have the music cue from that scene in THAT movie inserted into his movie in exactly the same way!

All this would be dandy if he would just fess up and say, "hey guys, this is nothing new. Check this movie out".

And might I add that the self proclaimed "trash movie know-it-all" doesn't seem to know a whole lot about the movies he claims to be a fan of. AC will tell you that his commentaries for Kung-Fu movies are constantly riddled with errors. BIG GIANT ERRORS.
To me, he comes off as a guy who is knowledgable enough about these things but not nearly as much as he's letting on.
He knows movie titles. When it comes to start naming the stars of these titles he's lost.

And of course, nobody calls him on it because who wants to watch anything before 1977 that isn't a classy picture?
There is nothing better to have than an ignorant audience ( and QT knows it.

Other than that pet peeve I think he's an okay guy. He certainly seems to be in interviews and such.
I guess I can judge for myself when I meet him later in Feb. Pending on his completion of IG.
It's his butt buddy, Robert Rodriguez, whom I've heard is the biggest asshole since Attila The Hun.[/i]

I don't known too much about QT, so that I won't contradict you about QT's film knowledge. I think we are both only talking about suppositions, at least we don't know for sure. But his SW list gives no indication that he hadn't seen much more than this 40 Spags. And even if he hasn't seen more, it's a good enough list which shows the eye of an filmmaker with most of the films of the most cinematic directors (Leone, Corbucci, Collizi) in it, and also some notable films like Face to Face missing.

But I like his films very much and Death Proof was a real pleasure to watch. The car chase isn't too good, at least it was not the best part of the film. This was exactly the 50 min of what you call nothing. And the fun is not only the still fantastic dialogue, but more the way he's presenting these dialogues. Me and my friends, we all enjoyed it very much in the movie theatre. Great fun and very well made.

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« #50 : January 24, 2009, 04:14:41 PM »

He reads a lot on them but I question the amount he's actually seen...

I strongly suspect from that selection that they are his entire collection (or what he's seen on tv) as pretty much everything there appears if you type in a "spaghetti western" search on Amazon. ;D

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« #51 : February 23, 2009, 05:54:00 PM »

Sadly, he didnt have "A Bullet for the General"



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« #52 : February 23, 2009, 06:55:32 PM »

Bullet For the General is pretty mediocre.

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