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« #60 : May 18, 2009, 03:56:45 PM »

Hey guys, bought and watched the GBU blu-ray. On the plus side, the picture is quite good, yes there is some excessive dnr in spots, and some print damage here and there, but for the most part I was happily surprised at the picture quality - definitely a large step up from the dvd. I noticed a lot of little details I hadn't before (other than seeing the film on the big screen) Also the new commentary by Frayling is fantastic - full of detail and basically he never stops talking for the entire film!

On the negative side - the audio mix is still the one with all of the crappy new gunshots etc - they even include a "mono mix" - but guess what - it's just a mixdown of the 5.1 - terrible decision! So, I doubt we'll ever hear those old school effects again, arrrghhh...

Also, I was hoping they'd do a seamless branching of the Leone US cut, without the added scenes, but no luck. Kinda sucks cause seamless branching would have been easy to do and cost them virtually nothing to include (just a little bit of programming).


So what we have here is a slightly updated version of the bastardised version we already own?
More reason to pass on this blu-ray thing.


P.S. Frayling commentary track will be uploaded to youtube soon anyway.

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« #61 : May 23, 2009, 11:14:00 AM »

anybody wanna record the new Frayling commentary for me?
will trade some of my goodies in exchange!


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« #62 : May 23, 2009, 11:18:52 AM »


I've seen some on ebay every now and again... and going for cheap too!

Studios do not sell prints of their films - EVER.
If you buy one it is illegal
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« #63 : May 23, 2009, 11:23:33 AM »



On the negative side - the audio mix is still the one with all of the crappy new gunshots etc - they even include a "mono mix" - but guess what - it's just a mixdown of the 5.1 - terrible decision! So, I doubt we'll ever hear those old school effects again, arrrghhh...


d'oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
actually it is better than nothing, at least i hope so. the WORST aspect of the remix was bouncing the DIALOG from speaker to speaker.
even modern day  STEREO films do not do that

I would love to have a version of the film that consists of the following:
the original soundtrack in mono
the scene where Angel Eyes visits the fort added to the US cut
the extended dialog with the Captain at the river encampment
ECSTASY OF GOLD & THE TRIO in stereo - what a finish that would be!

anyone want to cut this together for me?

thanks!
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« #64 : June 02, 2009, 05:53:54 AM »

DVD Savant's take: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s2907gbu.html



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« #65 : June 02, 2009, 12:48:12 PM »

tanks for the link!

cant believe the blu-ray did not include my article on the Kirk restoration - another golden opportunity missed ;D



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« #66 : June 07, 2009, 04:56:24 AM »

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« #67 : June 07, 2009, 09:36:09 AM »



what's your point?

Haha, seriously.

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« #68 : June 07, 2009, 09:51:19 AM »

Maybe it's just me, but I find it amusing that Savant has reviewed GBU three or four times now and has yet to come up with much of interest to say about it. This coming from a fan and admirer.



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« #69 : June 12, 2009, 12:17:42 PM »

I don't care how good it looks I still can't get past that re-dub with those horrible gun shots. I'll stick with my original dvd. At least it's anamorphic and not a bad transfer.

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« #70 : June 12, 2009, 12:39:47 PM »

I haven't seen the "Extended Cut" other than a few scenes but I can't think of a reason to bother. The 2000-ish DVD has the extra scenes as special features (and the only one that really should be in the film is Angel Eyes visiting the fort) and the original audio track, and it's in widescreen - that's enough for me.



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« #71 : June 13, 2009, 01:54:35 AM »

I'm thinking along the same lines.
The only problem that I have now is getting hold of that 2000 DVD. Twice I have bought it from sellers on Amazon but they have sent the wrong edition!
They have listed the wrong DVD.
Both seperate sellers sent a DVD from a collection that clearly states NOT TO BE SOLD SEPERATELY. Needless to say it doesn't contain the additional scenes that I am after being stuck on the end of the film as extras, plus it's just plain wrong!
I am dubious about trying to order it a third time now and it is no longer available to buy new from Amazon. I guess I should try and buy it from another seller and just make sure that it is the correct edition first

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« #72 : June 13, 2009, 06:34:57 AM »

I'm in U.S., have both the "original" GBU DVD widescreen with the extra scenes as special features, in Italian but one can choose subtitles in a few languages, including English.  I also have GBU 2-disc DVD and Mrs. Cusser got me the 4-film, 8-disc "Sergio Leone" Anthology which has the same 2-dsic GBU.  A few days ago I was at Best Buy looking for a speaker switch, and noticed a one-disc GBU DVD with a different cover yet, on sale for $6.99 down from regular $9.99.  So maybe that's the same as the previous one-disc GBU DVD????

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« #73 : June 13, 2009, 03:47:55 PM »

I saw the same thing at Sam's Club, different cover, not sure which it is didn't look at the back.


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« #74 : July 04, 2009, 11:06:27 AM »

I would love to have a version of the film that consists of the following:
the original soundtrack in mono
the scene where Angel Eyes visits the fort added to the US cut
the extended dialog with the Captain at the river encampment
ECSTASY OF GOLD & THE TRIO in stereo - what a finish that would be!

This is sort of thing has apparently become sort of popular, fan-edits of movies. There's supposed to be fan versions of the last few star wars movies for example where they cut out of all the junk scenes.
So it's definitely possible. If I had the original dvd I might take it upon myself but I don't.
Actually trying to synchronize the audio would be a big pain, so on second thoughts I wouldn't conciser it  ;)


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