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« on: June 14, 2009, 11:00:41 AM »

Hello All....My first post at this site........

But the first time I posted this to the wrong board....mybad!!!

Anyway, I've looked around this site (as well as A1's 'awardspace' site) and I've never seen a photo of the actual space where the train station locker scenes were shot.

For what it's worth, this space still exists,  It is largely intact and very recognizable.  I was there about two weeks ago. I travel through Hoboken Terminal on occasion and finally decided to take a look around. In this space, while the baggage office volume is there, It's exterior is different; there were probably some facades on it for the movie.  Part of the high railing  patrition has been removed.  Even with all these "alterations" over time, there is no doubt that this space is where the scene was shot.

One's next question would understandably be "Where's your photos?".  Here's the rub.  This room is beyond a sign saying "authorized personnel only".  I did not notice this sign when I first went in there. I was all excited to go back and snap some shots when it dawned on me; in this post 9/11 world, It would not be wise to go around snapping unauthorized photos.......in a transportation facility.......in the New York metro area! At least I won't be taking that chance. A1's photo's were taken in public areas.

Using A1's photos for reference, this space is between the ornate waiting room and the exterior shot from the north side.

Another way of locating this space is this: A1's photos of the ornate waiting room show an elaborate stair on one side.  With your back to those stairs(facing west), proceed out the doors to the train boarding area. Once outside, turn around 180 degrees; now your back is to the tracks (you're facing east).  Look to your left.  Just past a newspaper/snack stand you will see stairs going up.  From the bottm of those stairs one can see the distinctive railing and the curve of the banisters at the top of the stair railings (as seen in the video stills). 

If want to get in to see this space, i would ask for an NJ Transit  staffer to escort you.  Explain that it will only take a minute of their time.  NJ Transit personnel may get this request allot and be happy to oblige you.  Also, bring video stills from the from the movie scene to explain what you're up to. Above all, please mind the "authorized personnel only" signs.
 
Good luck!

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 11:52:02 AM »

Hi OUATIA fan. Welcome to the board.  Interesting post.  I thought the terminal had been completely renovated and it would be good to see photos, even if from a distance, showing how the place looks now.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 12:37:50 PM »


In fact, try this:  go to google, do an image search for "Since 1907: Hoboken Terminal At 100"  there you should see a photo looking up some stairs(one of the first images in the search).  These are the stairs I'm talking about.  This is the view you get at the bottom of those stairs.  These are the stairs the prostitutes were walking down in the "1968" scene.

I tried to upload this photo But I can't. (Huh?)

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2009, 01:20:59 PM »

It certainly looks like this part is unchanged but I don't fully understand how it links to the waiting area. Perhaps the bottom of the stairs leads to the train platforms.

http://christianmontone.blogspot.com/2007/07/since-1907-hoboken-terminal-at-100.html











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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 01:41:26 PM »

HG, Thanks for the up load.  Don't know why I could not do it!!! DOH!

Anyway ...re-read the second to last paragraph of my original post.  One needs to go outside the ornate waiting room....to the train loading area.....turn around to face the doors you just went out.  The stairs in question are on the left, next to a snack stand(walk about 40 feet).

There is no direct connection with the ornate waiting room.  I only mentioned it as a place to start ones search(when you're there.)

Another way of putting this: the bottom of the subject stairs empties out to the exterior.....the train loading area. 

Also, using your most receint post above, go to the last photo.  The space we're talking about is just behind the windows where blue light appears to be coming from (behind the chandelier).  Look at the bottom of those blue windows  they are blocked off.  This is where that "baggage office" is.

Hope this helps.........

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 01:52:00 PM »

Thanks for explaining it.   Afro

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 06:55:48 PM »

Yea Thanks, dj & I will probably do another Leone location trek we have to check out the Queens locations & Hoboken, dj was going to check out the mausoleum up in Westchester since he is right near it.

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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 03:25:47 AM »

Yea Thanks, dj & I will probably do another Leone location trek we have to check out the Queens locations & Hoboken, dj was going to check out the mausoleum up in Westchester since he is right near it.

Sounds great  Afro

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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 04:30:53 AM »

More photos:

This is the main entrance to the waiting room




The bottom of the stairs are through the doors marked "To Trains" and then right

The window above the Men's Room...



and the two adjoining windows



are the same as these windows



The bottom of the stairs



The windows at the top of the stairs



are the same as these windows



and these windows (probably)



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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 04:43:09 AM »

Nice work  Afro

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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 05:26:51 AM »

Great! CJ, we gotta go there.

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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »

Some amazing photos guys  Afro

Donít know if this helps. 

There is a photo where De Niro (1930's) is walking up the same stair case.  The photo has been taken from the top of the stairs looking down.  De Niro is getting ready to shoot a scene where he is walking up the stairs (on his way to the lockers), he is far left roughly about half way up the stairs, there is also an old lady (cloak type garment and hat) who is nearer the top of the stairs and about to walk down past  De Niro.  Some of the crew (80ís trainers/jeans with walkie talkies) are visible further back behind De Niro on the stations platform near the entrance to the staircase.  You can also see commuters walking past the crew (heading east) this part of the station must have still been open for business as usual.  The crew look as though they are waiting for an opportunity to shoot the scene - plus they seem to have the stair section closed off.   If I remember correctly the Hoboken scenes were shot in September 1982.

Posters have talked on this site about the deleted scenes in OUATIA but there were obviously scenes like this one which were trimmed down to keep the film to a respectable running time.  By Feb 1983 Leone had ten hours of usable footage in the can, which was then trimmed to six hours and then to its final (European) running time.   This particular scene (in the final film) if you remember starts with De Niro taking the suitcase out of the locker - we never see him walking up the stairs to the actual locker!

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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 11:44:08 AM »

HG's last post has this location NAILED!

BTW as long as one is going to Hoboken you may want to check out some sites in hoboken related to "On The Waterfront".  Check out the thread I posted titled "As long as you're (anyone) going to HobokenÖÖ."

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 03:03:05 PM »

In HG's post of 6/23/09, He has a photo of the tain loading area (supposedly from an internet image search).  The fith photo down has a caption of  "The bottom of the stairs" with a single red arrow in it.

Looking at the quality of light in this photo, it reminds me of the OUATIA scene where Noodles purchased his bus ticket out town, then rented a car when he go back into town.   I wonder if these scences were shot in in Hoboken station.  Does anyone know?  If it was, I donít think this space exists anymore since the train loading plaform is the only place this light quality exists.

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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 05:45:46 PM »

In HG's post of 6/23/09, He has a photo of the tain loading area (supposedly from an internet image search).  The fith photo down has a caption of  "The bottom of the stairs" with a single red arrow in it.

Looking at the quality of light in this photo, it reminds me of the OUATIA scene where Noodles purchased his bus ticket out town, then rented a car when he go back into town.   I wonder if these scences were shot in in Hoboken station.  Does anyone know?   If it was, I donít think this space exists anymore since the train loading plaform is the only place this light quality exists.


No those scenes were shot at Cinecitta OUATIA fan.

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