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« #30 : July 24, 2009, 01:32:45 AM »

The new one wasn't anything special, but wasn't bad either, the old one with Richard Chamberlain I don't remember.




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« #31 : July 24, 2009, 07:38:21 AM »

The Maltese Falcon and The Thing (love the original though).

possibly A Fistful of Dollars.

I hate remakes, only insanely talented directors should be allowed to remake movies.



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« #32 : July 24, 2009, 07:58:27 AM »

Cetainly NOT cape fear, martin fagcese's remake sucked huge nuts. way to fucking go. The original is 100% better in every way

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« #33 : July 24, 2009, 08:24:55 AM »

Cetainly NOT cape fear, martin fagcese's remake sucked huge nuts. way to fucking go. The original is 100% better in every way

Scorsese is awesome but I agree about his Cape Fear remake.

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« #34 : July 24, 2009, 08:55:45 AM »

Scorsese is awesome but I agree about his Cape Fear remake.
yea I agree but I'm almost positive it's his worst movie

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« #35 : July 24, 2009, 10:09:15 AM »

There are a lot of Scorsese stinkers, certainly more than most admit: GoNY, The Aviator, Kundun, Age of Innocence, Boxcar Bertha, The Departed, The Color of Money,  Cape Fear - all worthy contenders to me.



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« #36 : July 24, 2009, 10:53:38 AM »

Boxcar Bertha

Caught the climax of this last night.
Not sure about the rest of the movie but I thought the gunfight was really gritty (even with the red paint posing as blood) and very well put together.
Marty even garnered some early attention with this so I can't be alone in thinking it was shot well.
Again, just speaking for the end gunfight and Carradine being pinned to the boxcar.
Can't speak for the rest of the film which I didn't even see.




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« #37 : July 24, 2009, 12:11:02 PM »

There are a lot of Scorsese stinkers, certainly more than most admit: GoNY, The Aviator, Kundun, Age of Innocence, Boxcar Bertha, The Departed, The Color of Money,  Cape Fear - all worthy contenders to me.

The Aviator has its moments.  Why is Scorsese convinced that DiCaprio is the new DeNiro?  GoNY and Cape Fear were terrible.  The rest I haven't seen.  My favorite Scorsese's are Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The King of Comedy, and Casino.  I like Goodfellas but for some reason don't love it.  Same thing with Mean Streets.

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« #38 : July 24, 2009, 02:26:41 PM »

I like the Hammer Dracula, Lugosi's does nothing for me (and so Coppola's).
Close call: Farewell My Lovely . I like both versions.
And yes, FOD over the original.


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« #39 : July 24, 2009, 06:06:56 PM »

Caught the climax of this last night.
Not sure about the rest of the movie but I thought the gunfight was really gritty (even with the red paint posing as blood) and very well put together.
Marty even garnered some early attention with this so I can't be alone in thinking it was shot well.
Again, just speaking for the end gunfight and Carradine being pinned to the boxcar.
Can't speak for the rest of the film which I didn't even see.

It most certainly was shot well, considering the budgetary limitations: there's a pan that starts from the road the ends up on a train (it's hard to explain) and many others but ultimately (well, my opinion) it was a Corman cash-in with the Bonny and Clyde/Depression Era films around the time. The one scene that strikes me the most, even more than any camera movement, is neon PBR signs in a bar. Things like that keep the movie from having merit for me.

Col. watch Mean Streets again, that's a great one. And I find it odd that you prefer Casino to Goodfellas. I will say that ther former receives too much criticism for being too same-y. While it certainly is an unofficial Goodfellas sequel, it's not a bad movie and is very entertaining - although Stone's character is one of the most annoying and 1D evil bitches ever put on film.



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« #40 : July 24, 2009, 06:08:39 PM »

I think Casino is WAY better than Goodfellas, for what it's worth.



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« #41 : July 24, 2009, 06:16:12 PM »

really? Can you guys explain why (I'm really curious)?



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« #42 : July 24, 2009, 08:36:30 PM »

There are a lot of Scorsese stinkers, certainly more than most admit: GoNY, The Aviator, Kundun, Age of Innocence, Boxcar Bertha, The Departed, The Color of Money,  Cape Fear - all worthy contenders to me.
Well I definitely disagree with GoNY, Aviator, AoI, Kundun, and The Departed... those are all pretty great movies in my opinion. They're all fairly flawed - none are close to masterpieces - but they are quite good.

I agree Boxcar and Cape Fear are shit - and Color of Money is sorta shit too, though I enjoy it being a big fan of Paul Newman and The Hustler.

Casino - also borderline shit. It's like a three hour long music video with poor acting all around and rather uninteresting characters. Goodfellas is far, far superior.

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« #43 : July 24, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »

Col. watch Mean Streets again, that's a great one. And I find it odd that you prefer Casino to Goodfellas. I will say that the former receives too much criticism for being too same-y. While it certainly is an unofficial Goodfellas sequel, it's not a bad movie and is very entertaining - although Stone's character is one of the most annoying and 1D evil bitches ever put on film.

I should watch Mean Streets again, I only saw it once and that was several years ago.  But Goodfellas I watched last year for the third time and had the same reaction as the first two times.  I know that Casino is basically Goodfellas in Vegas and I agree about Stone, she is my least favorite part of the movie (while Lorraine Bracco is adorable).  Goodfellas has some fascinating scenes (usually involving Joe Pecsi) but I just don't get drawn into the story and the movie becomes a chore during the last third.  But Casino is riveting and I love all of talk about the old mob-run Vegas, its like the Copacabana scene but better.  The creepy fate of Joe Pecsi alone is worth watching the movie.

So why do I prefer Casino over Goodfellas?  I can't speak for Groggy but I think one reason is that I like Henry Hill too much.  To me the best work that Scorsese and DeNiro did was when they focused on unsympathetic, unlikeable characters like Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, Rupert Pupkin, and Ace Rothstein.  These are men that we (or at least me) have no feeling for and don't care when they fall from grace or go nuts.  It seems like we get closer to the sadness and desperation of the human condition this way, which is Scorsese's chief strength.  I spend too much of Goodfellas worrying about Henry and Karen Hill because I really care about them, and that makes Goodfellas more ordinary and less revealing.  I know this sounds strange but its the only thing that makes sense to me.   :D

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« #44 : July 24, 2009, 09:16:55 PM »

Well I definitely disagree with GoNY, Aviator, AoI, Kundun, and The Departed... those are all pretty great movies in my opinion. They're all fairly flawed - none are close to masterpieces - but they are quite good.

Casino - also borderline shit. It's like a three hour long music video with poor acting all around and rather uninteresting characters. Goodfellas is far, far superior.

Anyone who prefers GoNY over Casino is suspect to me.   :o

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