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« on: November 08, 2009, 09:47:57 AM »

A mystery to me why this is considered by some one of the best ever westerns. I didn't like particularly High Sierra (of which this is a kinda of western remake) and maybe that's the only claim to fame I can detect. It is obviously miscast in the leads (Mayo is all made up to look like a half-blood indian, figure that! And in some shoots she also has a bloated face: not the beuriful lady of, say Walter Mitty), the horses of the pursuers seem to be running ten times faster than those of the prey. It only has a good train heist sequence and some landscapes (about which I couldn't care less) and that's the only reason  I give it 6\10. And the tile doesn't help things: the italian one was much better: Buried Town's Lovers.

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2009, 09:52:39 AM »

The italian release seems at the moment the only available one on dvd:


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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 10:29:18 AM »

Who considers this one of the best Westerns ever? I'd never even heard of it.

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 04:48:06 PM »

Who considers this one of the best Westerns ever? I'd never even heard of it.

You're not a western fan.

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2009, 06:08:10 PM »

Do you see anyone besides you and me posting in this thread?

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2009, 06:44:56 PM »

Okay, I'll throw in. The WB Archives is offering it in R1 (on a high-priced DVD-R) and I was considering getting a copy, but titoli has somewhat dampened my ardor. Come to think of it, I don't really like High Sierra all that much either, the sub-plot with Joan Leslie really bites.

But titoli is correct: if you read around, you see lots of positive comments on the film. I think Scorsese, for one, is a booster. I'm guessing this is one of those Westerns for people who don't like Westerns . . .

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 08:06:29 PM »

It's quite possible it has fans, but all that proves is that it has a following. Perhaps it's a cult film, I don't see it showing up on pretty much any critic's list of great Westerns. The fact that I haven't heard of it period should say something.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2009, 05:25:02 AM »

Okay, I'll throw in. The WB Archives is offering it in R1 (on a high-priced DVD-R) and I was considering getting a copy, but titoli has somewhat dampened my ardor. Come to think of it, I don't really like High Sierra all that much either, the sub-plot with Joan Leslie really bites.

But titoli is correct: if you read around, you see lots of positive comments on the film. I think Scorsese, for one, is a booster. I'm guessing this is one of those Westerns for people who don't like Westerns . . .


Well, you rate my opinion higher than Scorsese's...that's something.  Cheesy

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 06:17:11 AM »

It's quite possible it has fans, but all that proves is that it has a following. Perhaps it's a cult film, I don't see it showing up on pretty much any critic's list of great Westerns. The fact that I haven't heard of it period should say something.
It means you're totally clueless, like the critics. They don't have an opinion on anything that hasn't had a regular DVD release. If you know only the films that are available on video, you don't know cinema.

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2009, 06:18:09 AM »

Well, you rate my opinion higher than Scorsese's...that's something.  Cheesy
I always have.

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 10:11:47 AM »

It means you're totally clueless, like the critics. They don't have an opinion on anything that hasn't had a regular DVD release. If you know only the films that are available on video, you don't know cinema.

I don't have an infinite capacity to research obscure movies that are never shown on TV and are not available on video. I leave that to you and Titoli.

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 02:31:27 PM »

I don't have an infinite capacity to research obscure movies that are never shown on TV and are not available on video. I leave that to you and Titoli.

Evidently you passed over my second contribution to this thread.

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 03:46:33 PM »

Split hairs if you like, that hardly negates my point.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 06:46:05 AM »

Your point hinges on the word "obscure" which is a term I'd dispute.

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2009, 08:48:43 AM »

You have noticed that only three of us are posting on this thread, yes?

Not to mention that in seven years on IMDB I have never seen a single thread on the Westerns board even mentioning this film.

No, that's not in and of itself proof of anything, except that I've seen threads for a huge variety of films, including pretty much every major Western there is.

I also note that it has all of 678 votes on IMDB as well.

Nor has it turned up in any of the many books related to Westerns that I've read.

Nor has it been mentioned in ANY of the top Westerns lists by critics that I've seen.

Nor does it have an entry in the Video Hound, an extremely comprehensive movie guide that includes films only available on ancient out-of-print VHS.

But because Scorsese apparently praised it, and you and Titoli have seen it, it's a well-known film.

Good logic Jinkies.

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