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« on: April 07, 2010, 09:53:21 AM »

Mediocre Ford-like cavalry movie, with 90 minutes of molasses to which is appended the battle which is quite interesting but doesn't redeem this crap from mediocrity. Peckinpah wrote the screenplay. 4\10

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 09:57:26 AM »

A "4"? More like a one-and-a-half.

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 10:01:43 AM »

1\10 for the first 3\4, But the final battle raise it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 09:24:38 AM »

Titoli pretty much nailed it.

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Early in his career, Sam Peckinpah adapted Hoffman Birney's Custer-inspired novel The Dice of God into a screenplay. The project lingered in development hell for years before passing to Arnold Laven, who worked with Peckinpah on The Rifleman. The Glory Guys (1965) is the unmemorable result.

 The 3rd US Cavalry prepares for a punitive expedition against hostile Apaches. Captain Harrod (Tom Tryon) rekindles an old romance with widow Lou (Senta Berger), only to find she's engaged to scout Sol Rodgers (Harve Presnell). Tough Sergeant Gregory (Slim Pickens) tries whipping raw recruits into shape. When the regiment goes into the field, General McCabe (Andrew Duggan) disregards orders, pushing ahead of a converging column to claim victory for himself.

The Glory Guys alternates cavalry clichés and sheer boredom. Laven fills time with balls, brawls, love triangles and unit building like a cut-rate John Ford movie. Peckinpah's knack for gritty dialogue and telling characterizations fails him, meshing with Laven's pedestrian direction. Whenever the pace flags we get another punch-up, with wooden doors and metal beams snapping like popsicle sticks. We wish the Apaches would hurry up and kill everyone.

 An undistinguished cast doesn't help. Tom Tryon and Harve Presnell never made it as Hollywood leading men; their stiff performances show why. Senta Berger is their hapless love interest. James Caan plays an insufferable Irish clown, complete with gnarly brogue. Other troopers, like Michael Anderson Jr.'s youngster, lack personality. Slim Pickens fares best as a veteran Sergeant.

 In its final half-hour, The Glory Guys finally captures our interest. James Wong Howe's photography provides striking widescreen shots of cavalry moving through the Durango countryside; the conflict between obsessive McCabe and prudent Harrod finally provides dramatic impetus. It culminates in an epic blood-and-thunder battle, with thousands of extras clashing in the Mexican scrubland. It's so impressive that we wonder why Glory Guys took so long to take flight.

The Glory Guys is a large-scale but typical cavalry picture. Peckinpah revisited this subject (and re-enlisted several cast members) with Major Dundee, a flawed but far better Western. 5/10

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 01:36:43 PM »

Almost: Peckinpah did not re-visited the film: GLORY GUYS was shot after DUNDEE. Senta Berger told me that the producers (Arnold Laven had supported Peckinpah a lot at the beginning of his career) at first wanted Sam as director but after the DUNDEE & CINCINNATI KID debacle Peckinpah became un-hireable.
The script was quite old, Sam had written it in the 50s! He would have heavily re-written it for a mid-60s project.

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 01:56:44 PM »

Acceptable Cavalry film.
Someone wrote once: The shadow of Peckinpah is stronger than the substance of most other westerns. Not untrue. 6/10

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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 03:08:05 PM »

Almost: Peckinpah did not re-visited the film: GLORY GUYS was shot after DUNDEE. Senta Berger told me that the producers (Arnold Laven had supported Peckinpah a lot at the beginning of his career) at first wanted Sam as director but after the DUNDEE & CINCINNATI KID debacle Peckinpah became un-hireable.
The script was quite old, Sam had written it in the 50s! He would have heavily re-written it for a mid-60s project.

Well, he wrote the script before he made Dundee, which is what I meant.

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