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« on: May 14, 2010, 09:32:18 AM »

This is being released tonight here in the States.

Just found at that the budget for this thing is $225 million!!! Shocked

It looks so-so from the trailers, and I'm not expecting a masterpiece, but I'm planning a big Waterfront trip tomorrow and I need a film to watch. This or Iron Man 2?

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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 10:21:46 AM »

This is being released tonight here in the States.

Just found at that the budget for this thing is $225 million!!! Shocked

It looks so-so from the trailers, and I'm not expecting a masterpiece, but I'm planning a big Waterfront trip tomorrow and I need a film to watch. This or Iron Man 2?
Watch this. We need a SLWBer's opinion on this one, too.

I'm not sure if I'm going. I like the idea of rethinking Robin Hood as a more serious story, but the reviews (frankly, not many) I've read say "It's OK but nothing special". I could spend six euros on something "OK" but for 9-10 euros + traveling expenses I demand something special.

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 10:39:09 AM »

$225 million!!! Shocked

Actually the correct number is 237, lol.

95% of the movie's filming locations are forests and old castles, for Christ's sake!

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 11:50:41 AM »

I can't possibly think what would justify that sort of budget, on this sort of film. That means it has to be an Avatar-level blockbuster just to break even.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 11:53:08 AM »

Watch this. We need a SLWBer's opinion on this one, too.

I'm not sure if I'm going. I like the idea of rethinking Robin Hood as a more serious story, but the reviews (frankly, not many) I've read say "It's OK but nothing special". I could spend six euros on something "OK" but for 9-10 euros + traveling expenses I demand something special.

The idea isn't bad, but it's been done before - Robin and Marian, for instance. Heck, even the Kevin Costner one posited itself as being about "the truth behind the legend" or some such nonsense. It's not even a new angle, really, and learning that Robin Hood didn't wear green tights and wasn't a fox isn't terribly exciting by now.

On the other hand, there's a great-on-paper cast.

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 12:19:37 PM »

Heck, even the Kevin Costner one posited itself as being about "the truth behind the legend" or some such nonsense.
It took me years to scrape images of this off the bottom of my cerebellum. No way would I ever give anything like this a chance again. I'll stick to my Blu-ray of the 39 film.

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 01:51:39 PM »

Yeah, the Errol Flynn version is great. Afro

Have you seen Robin and Marian? I watched that a year or two back and found it rather disappointing, but it seems to have a high reputation.

I remember liking Prince of Thieves when I watched it in a junior high History class (don't ask me why). But then again, I was in Junior High at the time...

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 02:52:34 PM »

Saw it. It sucks. Same level as Kingdom of Heaven. Thinking that this guy at some point, was able to do Alien, Blade Runner and Thelma And Louise makes me sick.

Bad cinematography. I'm not even criticizing the shaky cam. The whole audience laughed during two slow motions during the final battle, and don't get me started on the flash backs. Appart from a couple CGI shots that looked like CGI but where pretty cool (London), nothing that doesn't deserve to be thrown to garbage here.
No characterisation. Average-to-low-quality dialogues. Inconsistent plot, filled with cliché (makes The Patriot look like an autor film) and non sense (Robin, walking in the wood, finds the horse with Richard's crown; Robin, walking in the wood, finds a dying man who's actually the son of his father's friend; Robin's father, carving rocks, was actually the greatest philosopher of all times and wrote the Charter of Human Rights; and so on and so forth during 2 hours).
A single thing was ok in the whole movie: Richard, that we usually see coming at the end of any Robin Hood movie surrounded by a crew of angels and elves while a loud religious music is playing in the background is here a fat bastard. Brave, but still a bastard.

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 02:55:52 PM »

I don't really care for Blade Runner or Alien, so that comment doesn't register as much with me as ought.

But, thanks for the feedback regardless. Afro

So, it's a positive Jinkies review for Iron Man vs. a negative noodles review of Robin Hood. Should I factor in IMDB'ers?

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 03:02:39 PM »

I kind of remember you didn't dislike kingdom of heaven as much as i did. It's really the same kind of movie. If that help Wink

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 03:04:50 PM »

I thought it was decent. But I might want something more than decent out of my films, if possible. Cheesy

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 03:27:17 PM »

That's not gonna happen with Robin Hood Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 04:48:36 PM »

The indomitable Mr. Ebert weighs in. The first paragraph in particular confirms my suspicions.

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Little by little, title by title, innocence and joy is being drained out of the movies. What do you think of when you hear the name of Robin Hood? I think of Errol Flynn, Sean Connery and the Walt Disney character. I see Robin lurking in Sherwood Forest, in love with Maid Marian (Olivia de Havilland or Audrey Hepburn), and roistering with Friar Tuck and the Merry Men. I see a dashing swashbuckler.

That Robin Hood is nowhere to be found in Ridley Scott’s “Robin Hood,” starring Russell Crowe as a warrior just back from fighting in the Third Crusade. Now Richard is dead, and Robin is essentially an unemployed mercenary. This story is a prequel. It takes place entirely before Robin got to be a folk hero. The idea of taking from the rich and giving to the poor was still in storyboard form. Grieving Richard the Lionhearted and now facing the tyrant King John, Robin leads an uprising.

This war broadens until, in the words of the movie’s synopsis, “it will forever alter the balance of world power.” That’s not all; “Robin will become an eternal symbol of freedom for his people.” Not bad for a man who, by general agreement, did not exist. Although various obscure bandits and ne’er-do-wells inspired ancient ballads about such a figure, our image of him is largely a fiction from the 19th century.

But so what? In for a penny, in for a pound. After the death of Richard, Robin Hood raises, arms and fields an army to repel a French army as it lands on an English beach in wooden craft that look uncannily like World War II troop carriers at Normandy. His men, welding broadswords, backed by archers, protected from enemy arrows by their shields, engage the enemy in a last act devoted almost entirely to nonstop CGI and stunt carnage in which warriors clash in confused alarms and excursions, and Russell Crowe frequently appears in the foreground to whack somebody.

Subsequently, apparently, Robin pensioned his militia and retired to Sherwood Forest to play tag with Friar Tuck. That’s my best guess; at the end the film informs us, “and so the legend begins,” leaving us with the impression we walked in early.

Ah, you say, but what of Maid Marion? In this telling, Marion (Cate Blanchett) is not a maid but a widow, and not a merry one. At one point she threatens to unman Robin with her dagger, which is unlike the Maid Marions I’ve known and loved. Blanchett plays the role with great class and breeding, which is all wrong, I think. She’s the kind of woman who would always be asking Robin, “Why do you let that smelly so-called friar hang around you like a fanboy?”

If you listen closely to the movie’s commercials, you may hear of a royal edict being issue against “Robin of the Hood.” A hood, in medieval English, was of course a wood or forest — a point that may be lost on many of the commercial’s viewers.

“Robin Hood” is a high-tech and well made violent action picture using the name of Robin Hood for no better reason than that it’s an established brand not protected by copyright. I cannot discover any sincere interest on the part of Scott, Crowe or the writer Brian Helgeland in any previous version of Robin Hood. Their Robin is another weary retread of the muscular macho slaughterers who with interchangeable names stand at the center of one overwrought bloodbath after another.

Have we grown weary of the delightful aspects of the Robin Hood legend? Is witty dialogue no longer permitted? Are Robin and Marion no longer allowed to engage in a spirited flirtation? Must their relationship seem like high-level sexual negotiations? How many people need to be covered in boiling oil for Robin Hood’s story to be told these days? How many parents will be misled by the film’s PG-13 rating? Must children go directly from animated dragons to skewering and decapitation, with no interval of cheerful storytelling?

The photography is, however, remarkable, and Crowe and the others are filled with fierce energy. Ridley Scott is a fine director for work like this, although in another world, Hollywood would let him make smarter films. God, he must be tired of enormous battle scenes.


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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 02:16:58 AM »

Well, I have to say that the whole "robin hood like you never saw it"  thing(prequel, "realistic", everyone is a selfish bastard...) is the "concept" of the movie, and there is no point of criticising it. If you're looking for the good old Robin Hood, that's not what they were after (even if, of course, you'll find that feeling in a few lines or scenes: it's supposed to lead to the good old robin hood).

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 07:58:42 AM »

From what I understand of the plot (i.e., that it takes place after Richard dies, that Robin Hood leads a war against King John), it has no business calling itself a prequel in the first place.

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