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« #15 : June 06, 2011, 04:57:05 PM »

btw, RE: the issue of "heroes who brutalize women" and the controversies specifically RE: the rape of Deborah: I find it ridiculous that people who have no problem with "conventional" violence (eg. beating people or killing them in cold blood for no reason other than money, or to move up in the world, or to demonstrate your quickness on the draw, etc. etc, etc.) somehow get all upset when there is a brutal rape... I know that some censors had a problem with the violence in Leone's early films. But my guess is that the people who were all aghast at the rape of Deborah weren't complaining in the same way about the killings that took place in OUATIA simply for money and/or self-advancement... A bunch of killings/beatings mean nothing; that's "just business." But the rape of Deborah (which btw appears, albeit to a lesser extent, in the book the film was based on,) somehow means Leone is a misogynist? Puhleeez

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« #16 : June 06, 2011, 10:50:26 PM »

do you really think for a moment that if Jill had resisted Frank, he wouldn't have forced himself on her and/or killed her?

We don't and can't know for sure. :)




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