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« on: September 03, 2010, 09:12:48 AM »

I caught a few minutes of this on Turner Classic last evening.  We know that Mulloch jumped out of the hotel and killed himself (in costume), and Leone wanted the duster.  To me, when I watched closely, it does appear that a double was used for the end of the train station sequence.  The actor walks out to the others with his back to the camera, at one point turns around and shields his face.  Then when Harmonica appears, there's only facial shots of Strode and Elam, nothing of Mulloch.  That all makes me think that Mulloch was dead by the time of the shooting of that part of the scene.  Watch again, provide your thoughts.

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 11:46:16 AM »

I'm pretty sure that's what happened. After a certain point in the movie they never show his face again.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2010, 02:39:24 PM »

If I recall there was one close-up of Mulock when the train first came to a stop. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if you're correct.

Of course this scene need not have been shot in any real order.

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2010, 02:17:11 AM »

Yes Leone stated that he did need one more shot of him to finish the station scene.
I've not checked to see when Mulloch stops appearing, but I read that Leone insisted they got the duster off Mulloch before they drove him to hospital!
not sure about that one, but it wouldn't surprise me either!



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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2010, 05:38:05 AM »

Yes Leone stated that he did need one more shot of him to finish the station scene.
I've not checked to see when Mulloch stops appearing, but I read that Leone insisted they got the duster off Mulloch before they drove him to hospital!
not sure about that one, but it wouldn't surprise me either!

Yeah, that's a famous one Smiley
I think Leone said (may be in Simsolo's book?) that he needed "a close up". Or maybe I created myself this memory by noticing the missing close up everytime I watch the movie...

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2010, 05:58:07 AM »

Damn it! I'll probably notice this missing closeup now you've all pointed it out to me!  Wink

anyone know why he took his own life?
I read somewhere that he didn't leave a note.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 07:55:30 AM »

I seem to remember him being described as "depressive", but that's pretty easy to state after a suicide.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 09:16:52 AM »

Frank Wolff (McBain) killed himself aswell, albeit much later in the 1970s.

and, something which got me down quite a bit, so did Luigi Pistilli in (I think) 1996.
Read about how he was unhappy by unfavourable reviews of a play he directed and starred in and so shot himself through the heart.
He was in his late 70s.
you don't get much more artiste than that!

could be straight from a Melville or Louis Malle film.


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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 10:23:54 AM »

I always thought that the introduction focused on Strode and Elam more. However, upon seeing the slightly longer alternative Italian print, it appears Mulloch does get some more time. However, I'm only talking about his knuckles rather than his face of course!

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2010, 11:18:21 AM »

There should be a conspiration-theory movie about all these suicidal SW actors. Can't be just a coincidence...
 

Yes, I noticed quite early that the "third man" doesn't get much close-ups. And despite that, Leone didn't reshot all scenes with a new actor.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2010, 11:19:23 AM »

I always thought that the introduction focused on Strode and Elam more. However, upon seeing the slightly longer alternative Italian print, it appears Mulloch does get some more time. However, I'm only talking about his knuckles rather than his face of course!

He plays with the old man's bird (that's in the cage), his face is rather important for that whole segment, I'd say.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2010, 12:20:39 PM »

It's funny, I watched just the opening scene on TCM a few nights ago and thought the exact same thing!

I do believe another close-up was what Leone intended. It's strange how when the three pistoleros and Harmonica stare each other down there is not a single close-up shot of Mulloch even though everyone else is framed in ECU. It's especially noticeable just after Harmonica says "you brought two too many." That dialogue was in close-up, Woody Strode then gets one, followed by Elam, followed by a long shot. Even a casual viewer would wonder what happened to the other guy.

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2010, 01:36:33 AM »

I never wondered about that ...

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2010, 01:54:41 AM »

I never wondered about that ...

You're not casual.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2010, 05:12:10 AM »

yep thats going to stick out like a sore thumb for me now...

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