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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: grandpa_chum on September 13, 2004, 01:58:29 PM
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mario brega is credited as playing mandy on the final credits... did i completely miss him or was he only part of the extensive film that was cut even from the original cut... i know leone had an unrealistic 10 hours of film he dreamed of putting in the movie.
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He's the big hood of the three at the beginning where they shoot up the bed , beating up Fat Moe & he's also in the Chinese Theater searching for DeNiro, looks different without a beard, huh?
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wow! yeah... definitly... in fact i'll have to take a closer look before i even believe you... never for a second recognized him.
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i apoligize... that is him... amazing how well he cleans up... lost some weight too...
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8) supercool! Thanks guys, I was wondering about this too. Yep, he looks very different
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He's the big hood of the three at the beginning where they shoot up the bed , beating up Fat Moe & he's also in the Chinese Theater searching for DeNiro, looks different without a beard, huh?
Sorry - I think you may be wrong. The big hood is an actor called Frank Gio - listed in the credits as Beefy. I saw him recently in Analyze That - played De Niro gangster rival Lou The Wrench.
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Excuse me, i know it as ever been dicussed, but i who is mario bregga in that film??? he is credited, and i don''t think he is one of the killers of the begining...
I read (in "conversation with sergio leone") that he was actually a butcher in Rome, "a little bit gangster", and a friend of leone (according to the Master himself).
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Mario plays Mandy, one of the killers looking for Noodles in the opium den, at the beginning of the film, after the girl is killed. He is thinner than in the westerns, has no beard. Someone had captured and posted a photo from this, maybe on the old board.
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excuse me, i didn't notice that someone has answered ::)
so, which killer is he? the "boss"?
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Ah cool that's very interesting I saw this topic arise on imdb and someone said he was the guy that child noodles falls on, when spying on deborah. The guy taking a wee.
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hey guys i was wondering where is mario brega in this film?
i know he is one of the three goons in the begining but which one?
is he the one that revolves the barrel of his gun around the womans nipple?
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He's the one who's leaning against a table during the Moe beating scene. If I'm not mistaken he has a cigar, but I'm not too sure.
Those three men(Ahh, three, the perfect number!) are the same guys sitting in the back of the restaurant during the first scene with Joe Pesci.
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thanks POGGLE but i dont think that is correct...
but i have no say so anyway. i am as clueless as u are.
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He is the one who looks a bit like Mario Brega.
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Look at the way he looks in The Great Silence and then the guy in OUATIA. Same guy.
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He's the one who's leaning against a table during the Moe beating scene. If I'm not mistaken he has a cigar, but I'm not too sure.
Those three men(Ahh, three, the perfect number!) are the same guys sitting in the back of the restaurant during the first scene with Joe Pesci.
Who did those 3 men work for was it Joe Pesci?
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I could be wrong, but wasn't he the "Where is he? Where's he hiding?" guy?
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someone put up a picture. ;D
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He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?
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thats another actor
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He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?
That would be Burt Young, who gets shot two scenes later.
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Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind. ::)
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Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind. ::)
Well, is the mistery solved? that's a shame for this board that we cannot pintpoint one of the most important Leone collaborator...
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I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.
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I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.
yes i think too... but is somebody sure? (it will deserve an entry in the sergio leone encyclopedia as soon as we'll be sure...)
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I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.
Definitely correct. A few photos below - in 1984 Mario was 60 years old and had lost some weight - that guy Beefy must have been big - usually it was Mario (formerly a butcher) who dwarfed everyone else.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/01-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/03-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/06-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/09-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/11-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/12-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/13-1.jpg)(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/15-1.jpg)
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SO i guess their is no mystery anymore... thanks!
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Wow, I didn't even realize he was in this. :o
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Yes thanks immensely, we sort of thought he was that guy.
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This topic has reminded me of some thoughts I had on OUATIA's sound and dialogue.
According to Frayling, some 65% of OUATIA has direct sound and De Niro was keen on the actors being American and having the right accents. I am not sure if Mario could speak various languages but I wonder if this may partly explain the differences in the dialogue in the book and the film. In the book Mendy (Mandy) seems to be the boss over his two colleagues Trigger and Muscles (Beefy) and has quite a bit of dialogue. In the film Beefy has most if not all of the dialogue.
I recently watched 1900 (now that is a long film) followed by Leone's early westerns and it seemed obvious that the actors were speaking their lines in whatever language they were most comfortable with - the French actor was speaking French, the Italians were speaking Italian and the English and Americans English. Since the films were going to be released worldwide, there were always going to be synchronising problems with dubbing so it didn't really matter.
I may be completely wrong but I thought the general opinion was that French and Italian audiences were more used to dubbing and found it acceptable. The American and English audiences were less used to it and found out of sync dialogue irritating.
There seems to be a conscious decision with OUATIA to accept this view and I am not aware of any out of sync dialogue in the English version. Also it is possible that some of the unpublished footage is not as raw as we may think.