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Title: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on August 11, 2023, 01:48:16 PM
This guy really loves Sergio Leone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86EMR1n56Lc
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: dave jenkins on August 11, 2023, 07:15:50 PM
The guy is way out of line with regard to the CoR. It has points of interest because later memorable sequences in SL's oeuvre were first tried out here. The peeing on ants in DYS, for example, was prefigured in Rhodes (fire drops out of the colossus on escapees; the shot is filmed to make it seem its coming from between the statue's legs), as was Frank's final choreography in OUATITW. It's not just for completists: anyone who is interested in Leone's work and how it evolved should be interested in CoR.

UPDATE: I documented some of this in an earlier thread (http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=5111.30)

Unhappily, not all the screen caps survive.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: dave jenkins on August 11, 2023, 09:16:42 PM
OTOH, he makes a fabulous case for putting FAFDM in third place. Ultimately, though, he is not persuasive: the three films shot by Delli Colli must go highest. To deny this is to have no regard for cinematic lighting. Comparing FAFDM and DYS, I must again choose the better lit film (which also has better characters and a more interesting plot). So the correct order, top to bottom, is:

a DC film
a DC film
a DC film
DYS
FAFDM
FOD

CoR
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on August 19, 2023, 08:37:17 AM
Two additional Leone videos I came across
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiQLHL10BYo&t=301s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV8oZeZu4Pc&t=799s
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: noodles_leone on August 19, 2023, 09:04:43 AM
So the correct order, top to bottom, is:

a DC film
a DC film
a DC film
DYS
FAFDM
FOD

CoR

You?re making a weird argument but in the end the order is correct so it?s all right.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: T.H. on August 19, 2023, 12:54:33 PM
Colossus of Rhodes would be so much more enjoyable if its runtime was under 90 minutes. There's definitely some good stuff there, but it's way too long.

I don't know if I'd rank DYS over the first two Dollars movies, which are iconic. AFOD changed movies in many ways, and who knows what becomes of the Spaghetti subgenre if it wasn't such a hit -- and it's a great exploitation/lower budget genre movie. FAFDM can be seen as the first buddy action movie.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: noodles_leone on August 19, 2023, 11:21:48 PM
DYS is definitely the less influential movie Leone made (after CoR of course). It?s still a much s  II period movie to the first two dollar films imo but yeah, if you erase it from history not much would change, while I don?t know what movie history would be like without the dollar films.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on August 30, 2023, 11:38:26 AM
Came upon this video today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfHRTkhsUmo
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: dave jenkins on August 31, 2023, 07:29:58 AM
Only one B&W Western on the list? WTF?
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on September 04, 2023, 01:10:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjiGB_Pvy34
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: cigar joe on September 04, 2023, 04:32:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjiGB_Pvy34

Nice. I did notice something that I never noticed before when discussing OUTIA. He shows a clip of the scene just before Domenic gets it at DUMBO because of the way he edited it I noticed the high rise apartment building on the left that looks a bit too modern for the 1920s. BTW that apartment house is on the other side of the East River a half mile away. Normally your focus is on the kids if you watch the film.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on November 16, 2023, 04:25:33 PM
Another interesting video, but "auf Deutsch"    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyUA1AVGKCQ
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: dave jenkins on November 16, 2023, 08:03:55 PM
Another interesting video, but "auf Deutsch"    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyUA1AVGKCQ
Hah! "Wer schiessen will, solte nicht quatschen." Gets me every time.
Title: Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
Post by: Cusser on November 17, 2023, 06:19:39 AM
Hah! "Wer schiessen will, solte nicht quatschen." Gets me every time.
"Wer schie?en will, der soll schie?en und nicht quatschen."

https://www.filmzitate.de/zitate/Zwei-glorreiche-Halunken-1967x1