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Title: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 21, 2005, 07:19:04 AM
Ah, Steve McQueen. One of my favorite actors. My goal in life is to know as much about driving and cars as Steve McQueen, As much about guns as Clint Eastwood, Movies as My parents, Biking as Lance and hunting as My grandpa, And flyfishing as my dad and Ed Zern combined.  Anyway. Anyone got any good movie with Mc Queen? I love Bullitt, Mag 7, The Blob was funny, Nevada Smith was great. Any more I'm missing? I heard there was a sequel to mag 7 and Bullitt.

"Guy said I'd make a cracker jack clerk, Cracker jack..."

"Time starts now"

"I'm trackin' three men who killed my mother and father"
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: boardwalk_angel on June 21, 2005, 07:36:12 AM
I heartily recommend:
Junior Bonner
The Great Escape
Sand Pebbles

The first sequel to Magnificent Seven was "Return of the Seven"...w/ Robert Fuller in the role of "Vin". Mcqueen turned it down.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: grandpa_chum on June 21, 2005, 09:56:40 AM
the getaway and the great escape are the best movies he's in... but his best performance and a damn good movie, I garantee a steve mcqueen fan will love it, is THE HUNTER... trust me, just see it, no matter what you hear about it.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 21, 2005, 10:58:02 AM
Forgot to mention I own the Great Escape and it is one of few movies I can watch over and over with out it getting old. I'll look for the Hunter and those others. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Le Bon on June 21, 2005, 02:54:50 PM
One of his best performances was in Papillon with Dustin Hoffman escaping from Devil's Island.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Belkin on June 22, 2005, 12:24:49 PM
the getaway and the great escape are the best movies he's in... but his best performance and a damn good movie, I garantee a steve mcqueen fan will love it, is THE HUNTER... trust me, just see it, no matter what you hear about it.
It is indeed a great performance (The Hunter), but I think equally he delivers the acting goods in TOM HORN (imo, a very neglected western). Anybody ever catch him in the TV half hour Hitchcock classic, can't recall the title but its the one where he plays a game with a nutcase for "fingers". Chilling stuff!
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 22, 2005, 01:20:10 PM
Gramps- could you recall the rating on The Hunter, having a younger brother and sister means a lot when youre only 15. They mostly want to watch movies with me.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: cigar joe on June 22, 2005, 02:44:24 PM
Give Tom Horn a look too.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on June 22, 2005, 04:22:50 PM
Don't forget Wanted Dead or Alive. Season one is available now, I believe, a good one, but you have to wait for season two to see LVC as guest baddie Jumbo Kane!
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: phantomstranger on June 22, 2005, 05:08:39 PM
I just got the "Wanted:Dead Or Alive" season one DVD set. Fantastic! It takes me back to the days of when I was a kid and watched these shows every afternoon along with "The Wild Wild West", "The Lone Ranger" and "Wagon Train." I love it!
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: grandpa_chum on June 24, 2005, 06:06:44 AM
Gramps- could you recall the rating on The Hunter, having a younger brother and sister means a lot when youre only 15. They mostly want to watch movies with me.

You are in luck, it's PG... it's made by buzz kulik, the guy made TV movies for a living.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 25, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
Great, do you konw where I could get The Hunter, or these others for that matter.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Le Bon on June 25, 2005, 02:59:13 PM
Great, do you konw where I could get The Hunter, or these others for that matter.

A box set of McQueen movies is out in June. It includes the video premiere of The Cincinnati Kid and also in it are Getaway Bullitt Tom Horn Papillon and Never so Few. The titles are also available separately.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 25, 2005, 03:00:04 PM
I just saw the end of a documentary on good ol' Steve and a lot of them said that he didn't like dialogue, he'd just look down at his feet then look up and say OK or Ya.

One funny thing the director of Bullitt said was a story where he was getting some close ups of McQueen in the Mustang and he tapped him a said 'I think were about out of film' and he said 'that's nothing were out of brakes' and the managed to stop the car by swerving and turning and gear shifting.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 25, 2005, 03:01:40 PM
Do you know where I can get these? I imagine theyre DVD right?

I'd love to get it. Thanks a lot for the inforamtion!! ;D
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: KERMIT on June 25, 2005, 03:31:54 PM
I just saw the end of a documentary on good ol' Steve and a lot of them said that he didn't like dialogue, he'd just look down at his feet then look up and say OK or Ya.

One funny thing the director of Bullitt said was a story where he was getting some close ups of McQueen in the Mustang and he tapped him a said 'I think were about out of film' and he said 'that's nothing were out of brakes' and the managed to stop the car by swerving and turning and gear shifting.
just got a chance to see this beebs.¬† cool when mcqueen and guy playing bad guy, after shooting was done for the day,  would drive the charger & mustang¬† to get a feel for high speeds for chase scene to be filmed later on.

Steve McQueen's car upshifts more than 16 times.  :o



Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 25, 2005, 03:33:33 PM
in the movie, I think about 11 hub caps fall off the Charger :D
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Le Bon on June 26, 2005, 04:54:09 PM
Do you know where I can get these? I imagine theyre DVD right?

I'd love to get it. Thanks a lot for the inforamtion!! ;D

Yes the set is on DVD. The R1 is out now but the R2 is not out till later this year. Here is a link for more info.
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=56428
You can buy it at www.amazon.com

Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: grandpa_chum on June 27, 2005, 06:30:58 PM
I know you can get the hunter online at best buy or amazon... other than that I haven't a clue, it is out on dvd although for some reason expensive, and if I remember correctly it's not even widescreen... personally I think his performance in the hunter was the best of the 80's, by anyone.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 28, 2005, 07:07:00 AM
Thanks Gramps,
I'll check it out ;D

He is the King of Cool 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Belkin on June 29, 2005, 05:28:37 PM
Thanks Gramps,
I'll check it out ;D

He is the King of Cool 8) 8) 8)
He was indeed the KING OF COOL. Check out, if you havn't seen them already, THE REIVERS (69), a different role for McQueen but a terrific performance; and also in HELL IS FOR HEROES (62), a neglected war movie that (imo) ranks with the best! A fine actor, much missed. Nobody on the screen today can match him (imo).
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: KERMIT on June 29, 2005, 09:26:04 PM
I know you can get the hunter online at best buy or amazon... other than that I haven't a clue, it is out on dvd although for some reason expensive, and if I remember correctly it's not even widescreen... personally I think his performance in the hunter was the best of the 80's, by anyone.
mcqueen knew how to work for the camera. he's been gone now 25 years and his films speak for themselves.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080907/
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Beebs on June 30, 2005, 07:28:34 AM
He was indeed the KING OF COOL. Check out, if you havn't seen them already, THE REIVERS (69), a different role for McQueen but a terrific performance; and also in HELL IS FOR HEROES (62), a neglected war movie that (imo) ranks with the best! A fine actor, much missed. Nobody on the screen today can match him (imo).

very nicely put. I have kept my eye out for Hell is for Heroes for some time now and also the famous Sand Pebbles that made him so famous. I still have not seen all of Nevada Smith which I hope to do soon.

I agree fully that no actor today can compare. He spoke with his actions, he said himself he didn't like dialogue (would have made a great spaghetti Western actor)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 02, 2007, 02:04:06 PM
This is one actor I wish had worked with Sergio Leone.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on August 02, 2007, 04:26:01 PM
By the way, Steve McQueen (1985) has just been remastered for CD by Thomas Dolby himself. I've always liked this Prefab Sprout album, but now it sounds better than ever (and you get a bonus disc of unplugged versions of most of the songs). Some have described SM as the Pet Sounds of the 80s, and that seems a fair assessment. Would Steve have cared? Probably not.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 02, 2007, 06:49:49 PM
By the way, Steve McQueen (1985) has just been remastered for CD by Thomas Dolby himself. I've always liked this Prefab Sprout album, but now it sounds better than ever (and you get a bonus disc of unplugged versions of most of the songs). Some have described SM as the Pet Sounds of the 80s, and that seems a fair assessment. Would Steve have cared? Probably not.

Yeah, I don't think McQueen would have cared as well. Steve was in his own world.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: mike siegel on August 03, 2007, 03:13:19 AM
McQueen Pt 1

He's my favorite moviestar, the old story of the brother I never had...

That HITCHCOCK episode is indeed great. With Peter Lorre and Steve's first wife Neile. It is called MAN FROM THE SOUTH and Tarantino re-made it with himself as the lead for the anthology FOUR ROOMS.

Once you get to really like Steve, you should get all the DVD's anyway. He made only 26 films (not all are available, but trackable through fellow collectors :)).

His winners:
BLOB (he hated that one :), great Sci-Fi flick though. Great DVD with audio-commentary!)
MAGNIFICENT 7, obviousely. He complained that he had few lines. Sturges said: I give you the camera. He did.
HELL IS FOR HEROES. A serious war-drama, well-directed by Don Siegel. Coburn & L.Q. are in it. No happy end.
GREAT ESCAPE. He left the set because he got terribly jealous of Garner having all that dialogue. Steve invented the motor cycle scenes for the film. He knew so well what worked for him. I knew people working on that film in Bavaria. Great sories - how he left the set in his German WWII uniform, babbling to locals in English. Awesome movie.
LOVE WITH THE PROPER STRANGER. His first real acting challenge. Great film about then taboos (abortion, free love). Nathalie Wood was his kind of woman, dark haired, exotic looks... ONLY ON TAPE or Bootleg DVD.
CINCINNATI KID. Peckinpah started it as depression-drama in b/w. He got fired, Jewison made a good glossy poker-player story out of it. Great score by Lalo Schifrin. Ann-Margret, yeah...
NEVADA SMITH. Not one of my favorites, but its quite popular. Steve looks far to old (36) for the part (a boy). Good photography, epic story, Brian Keith is great.
SAND PEPPLES. His only OSCAR-nomination. Watch out for the new SE DVD. The part was close to him - a man and his machine. Very popular, for me it always was too long. Works better on the big screen.
THOMAS CROWN. His 2nd with Jewison, a winner. The commercial-like style was something new. Jewison at first couldn't see street kid Steve as a business man. Shows how good Steve had become by that time. Women love it.
BULLITT. No comments needed. I have a 35mm print of it. Adore it.
THE REIVERS. People wouldn't care much for the package William Faulkner/McQueen. But coming from Indiana, McQueen was kind of a country boy and he brought that guy to life. I like the WideScreen DVD. I love it to see him so much alive and happy in that performance.
JUNIOR BONNER. His best performance probably. McQueens favorite performance next to PAPILLON. But he rarely mentioned BONNER, because it didn't make much $$ and actors always go for the hits (because people went they think
the film did a better job. But as we know, movies are not only there for the initial release. Thank god it's an art form).
Beautiful portrayal of a family drifting apart, touching each other for a 4th of July weekend. Ida Lupino, Robert Preston, Peckinpah all on top of their game! Masterpiece.
GETAWAY. Peckinpah & McQueen made it to have a hit. They did and they had. Great film nevertheless - with so much talent involved. Ali couldn't drive, she was a New Yorker. And there you had a race driver forced to take the passengerseat. Fun stuff. Classic.
PAPILLON. Never became the classic people thought it would. But it's popular of course. I saw it many times in the cinema, never on DVD. Don't dare. I'm afraid it looses too much. His performance (and Dustin's, my favorite ACTOR), should have been nominated.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: mike siegel on August 03, 2007, 03:50:25 AM
McQueen PT 2

McQueen & Peckinpah having a good time on the GETAWAY set. They were both in love (and both married their ladies soon) and very happy.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1612/7186524/16445514/269453177.jpg)

His lesser films:
NEVER LOVE A STRANGER. O.k. low-budget gangster drama. Drew Barrymore's papa plays the lead.
THE GREAT ST-LOIS BANK ROBBERY. Another low budget gangster flick, Steve has the lead here.
NEVER SO FEW. O.k., it's fun to watch, but not a good film. Steve steals the show, Bronson is there as well. The played together in three Stirges-films.
WAR LOVER . WWII flyers in England. A better film, but nothing special. McQueen became a pilot himself later in life.
HONEYMOON MACHINE. MGM's attempt of making a girly-type comedy guy out of Steve. I like the film, because he IS funny to me very often. Just for fun, don't take it serious, don't even discuss it :).
SOLDIER IN THE RAIN. I first saw it 5 years ago, couldn't believe my eyes. I never liked Ralph Nelson, but this is something. McQueen completely left alone, 'overacts soo... well, anybody saw ISHTAR with Dustin? Changes from military comedy to drama. Worth having though - rare film...
BABY THE RAIN MUST FALL. Southener drama by Pakula-Mulligan, not half as good as MOCKINGBIRD or LOVE WITH A PROPER STRANGER. But not bad...
LE MANS. I'm a motor-head, so I like it. His goal was to make a serious film about the racing-sport without romance and story... Sturges quit. The film was Steve's ALAMO. But now it's there and we have it. Which is good, because nobody would ever do a thing like that but Steve, not before, not afterwards.. Awesome photography. Looked great on the screen, but bored people to death.
THE TOWERING INFERNO. Roland Emmerich's favorite film. Without McQueen, Newman, Holden, Astaire I wouldn't have paid for the ticket. THey're worth it, great show of course too. Not my bag anyway these effect-shows (as most of the US mainstream cinema these. Can't we ever get rid of it? film-style was supposed to change every other decade, wasn't it?
Looked great in the cinemas in the 70's...

After that film McQueen withdraw from the film-business for a few years. He felt empty and bored.
I wish he had done SORCERER for Friedkin who wanted him badly! The writer from WILD BUNCH, designer from LAWRENCE OF ARABIA... Still a great film but Roy Scheider ain't McQueen.

AN EMEMY OF THE PEOPLE. People thought he would joke.. McQueen doing Ibsen? BUT, it is a good drama, fine performance, good cast. But merely a stage play and banned by everybody...
TOM HORN. Unfortunately that wonderful genre of western movies died in the mid-70's NOBODY, PAT GARRETT, JOSEY WALES are the last great ones (I think). TOM HORN is a good film, but it seems that westerns are not working that well in the computer age. OPEN RANGE was great. But one good western every other 5+ years is not enough to re-establish the genre. And I suppose we don't have the people for that genre any longer too... Should have been directed by a great one..
THE HUNTER. I like it too. But it looks like a TV-film nevertheless. The bad 80's style already showing up. For McQueen fans important of course. After his bounty hunter beginnings (WANTED) the circles closed. And lots of references - like the old toys he collected in real life, him playing the worst driving leading man ever..
The old soundtrack was much much better. Or maybe just used outside the US.

I was very lucky getting to know people who knew him very well, like Ali, Katy Haber, Bo Hopkins, Coburn and others. But that is as close as I'm able to get to him. Makes me very sad I'll never have that experience.
 

Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 03, 2007, 08:35:27 AM
I own all these films mike siegel. You can tell, I'm a pretty big McQueen fan. Great picture you posted! :)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on August 03, 2007, 12:05:35 PM
I don't care what people were watching in 1980, Tom Horn is a great film that we can enjoy today on DVD. This is one of McQueen's great performances, cause he's actually trying to be the character rather than phone in his usual iconic "cool". Tom Horn is not cool (based on a real person) and this probably upset some of McQueen's "fans." Further, this is less a Western (with all of the conventions the genre entails) and more of a drama set in the historical West, which genre-heads mostly can't abide. The story, nonetheless, is fascinating, all the performances are interesting (Slim Pickens does it again!) and the cinematography is stunning (like watching a series of animated Remingtons). Here, see for yourself:
(http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/5596/tomhorn1jf0.png)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/425/tomhorn2mq8.png)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6481/tomhorn3cg5.png)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6322/tomhorn4bc5.png)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7195/tomhorn5ev0.png)
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3899/tomhorn7rf1.png)
(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9914/tomhorn12mg1.png)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Silenzio on August 03, 2007, 12:06:51 PM
I've always been interested in this movie (mainly because I'm interested in the real Tom Horn, quite the guy.)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 03, 2007, 12:10:11 PM
mike siegel is spot on. Steve McQueen gave a great performance in "Tom Horn", all this while he was dying of cancer as you could see in the film. It's one of the under appreciated Steve McQueen performances of his career. I think this and Papillion are up there with Steve's best acting. The film has some great cinematography as you can see in the pictures mike siegel posted. Awesome!

If you're interested in McQueen, and have yet to see this film, do so ASAP.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: cigar joe on August 03, 2007, 04:57:38 PM
yup a great film O0
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: lovelyrita on August 03, 2007, 09:09:04 PM
One of his best performances was in Papillon with Dustin Hoffman escaping from Devil's Island.

It was the performance that he so deserved an award for. His acting was superb and at the time underrrated..
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 03, 2007, 10:34:23 PM
It was the performance that he so deserved an award for. His acting was superb and at the time underrrated..

Yup. It's a travesty he didn't at least grab a nomination. That's the politics of Hollywood for you.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 08, 2007, 11:47:43 PM
(http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/mcqueen_s.jpg)

I love this picture of Steve! ;D
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 08, 2007, 11:49:04 PM
(http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/avclub_review3086.article.jpg)

Another Awesome Picture!
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on May 21, 2009, 04:56:40 PM
Well, I missed this, but I guess I could go to the follow-up screening next Monday (which doesn't have the special guests): http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/3272-CANDICE-BERGEN-AND-STEVE-MCQUEENS-FAMILY-ATTEND-LINCOLN-CENTER-SCREENING-OF-THE-SAND-PEBBLES.html#extended
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on May 28, 2009, 05:46:11 AM
Cinema Retro reports:

Quote
The Film Society of Lincoln Center's week long tribute to Steve McQueen concluded last night with a big screen showing of Bullitt. Sadly, director Peter Yates, who was scheduled to introduce the film, was sidelined by an illness. However, party-hearty New Yorkers didn't let that interfere with enjoying the cocktail party held in his honor prior to the screening. The print provided was in very good condition and the audience responded with the enthusiasm of seeing the movie for the first time. It did occur to me, however, that given what a cash cow Bullitt has been for Warner Brothers since 1968, that it hasn't merited a full restoration. Let's hope the studio does justice to this film by making this a priority. Kudos to the Film Society for a job well done and an exciting week of superb entertainment.

The emphasis is mine. I had a similar feeling watching the Lincoln Center screening of The Magnificent Seven last weekend. The studios are taking their most ardent fans for granted.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on February 16, 2020, 01:45:15 PM
Coming May 12: https://www.criterion.com/films/29149-the-great-escape
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Novecento on February 23, 2020, 08:04:06 PM
Wow - 'bout time. Some nice extras in there.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: mike siegel on February 24, 2020, 01:37:36 AM
Wow - 'bout time. Some nice extras in there.

Yeah... could be my favorite McQueen, although his screen time is limited.
Unfortunality Criterion never responds to emails, I offered them to track down
the superb German behind the scenes TV footage... Shame.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Novecento on February 24, 2020, 06:42:25 PM
That's a shame they didn't respond.

It's not just one of my favorite McQueen films, it's also one of my favorite war films along with Peckinpah's "Cross of Iron". I also have a soft spot for "Where Eagles Dare" too.
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: stanton on February 25, 2020, 02:09:43 AM


It's not just one of my favorite McQueen films, it's also one of my favorite war films along with Peckinpah's "Cross of Iron". I also have a soft spot for "Where Eagles Dare" too.

Jesus f..... Christ ...
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Novecento on February 25, 2020, 06:24:28 AM
Jesus f..... Christ ...

I put Where Eagles Dare in just for you Stanton :)
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: stanton on February 25, 2020, 08:06:25 AM
I was afraid of that ...

Actually I don't like The Great Escape either. Not as bad as the Eagles Bore, but also not that much entertainment in there. Similar to Mag 7 a film beneath its potential, and a disappointment from a director like Sturges, who made so many better films, especially westerns.

So there's a big gap between Cross of Iron and the Escape, and an even bigger one between the Escape and the Eagles. These 2 are also films which make me think that Convoy is comparatively a masterpiece ...
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: Novecento on February 28, 2020, 07:25:49 PM
Here's how it goes for me:

"Cross of Iron": The best technically--hands down. This is one well-made flick
"Great Escape": Really moving story. I don't usually care much for actors, but this has some great ones all in the same movie.
"Where Eagles Dare: Mindless entertainment and thoroughly enjoyable

So maybe, Stanton and I aren't that far apart in our opinions after all...
Title: Re: Steve McQueen
Post by: dave jenkins on May 14, 2020, 01:44:06 PM
Coming May 12: https://www.criterion.com/films/29149-the-great-escape
Criterion blu in da house!