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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: Leone Admirer on January 05, 2006, 08:57:23 AM
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Over at the DVD Forums, its been reported that Sony are releasing FAFDM on Blu Ray this March/April. Anyone tempted to buy ;D
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Is this release gonna be the long talked about special edition that has been released everywhere except the US? If so, I'd be interested to hear more about it.
Otherwise, I'll stick with my mgm widescreen dvd with the trailer.
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On a visual plan what is going to be the difference between dvd and blue ray (and hd dvd?)?
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If you mean in picture terms then the quality will be much better, there will also be more space for soundtracks and certain soundtracks will be enhanced for HD format (Dolby Digital HD for instance). Mainly more room on the disc itself.
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The German DVD is the version to beat all versions.
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Over at the DVD Forums, its been reported that Sony are releasing FAFDM on Blu Ray this March/April. Anyone tempted to buy ;D
I guess this never happened.
Is blue ray some new form of dvd?
i dont see what is wrong with the form we have now.
it seems like a big scam to go buy another form of dvd player.
As Poggle says get the German version(preferably in the wooden box set if the wife or your wallet allows you too).
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I forgot about this. I haven't heard any more news but will chase it up.
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I forgot about this. I haven't heard any more news but will chase it up.
but what is a blue cheese dvd anyway?
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Blue Ray is another form of HD DVD in which, like the name says, a blue ray is used to read info off the discs.
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Blue Ray is another form of HD DVD in which, like the name says, a blue ray is used to read info off the discs.
whats the difference? just High definition?
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I believe Blue Ray disc's can hold more data. Thats pretty much the difference.
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I believe Blue Ray disc's can hold more data. Thats pretty much the difference.
really?...I'll pass.
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Its always the same our favourite movies seem to have somthing extra added almost monthy a minute here a minute there, higher quality or diffrent box, missing scenes you name it the film companies know just the ticket to squeeze the buck out of us.
My wife has given up asking me why I need the Good the Bad and the Ugly on VHS DVD and so on and all the variations from around the world not to mention a whole stack of soundtracks that fill my CD cabinet and LP box
But when anything new comes out I get the sweats and shakes my eyes go slitty like angel eyes and like a sucker I forget to duck and reach for my wallet
God help us we Spaghetti lovers need a grave full of gold to keep up with it all
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If you mean in picture terms then the quality will be much better, there will also be more space for soundtracks and certain soundtracks will be enhanced for HD format (Dolby Digital HD for instance). Mainly more room on the disc itself.
sorry Leone admirer, I had not read what you wrote before I before I wrote my question.
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A word about the blu-ray format, and why I am so excited about it: Resolution! much more of it, to be exact:
A Movie (as you know, with 24 frames a second) is encoded on DVD as digital pictures with 720 by 480 pixels. For cinemascope/techniscope, the format Leone has been using, where you have the black bars on the top and bottom, this goes down to 720x360 for anamorphic (16:9) images, and even around 720x270 for non-anamorphic (4:3) DVDs. Not very many pixels...
On Blu-Ray, pictures can be encoded as 1080p, that is 1920x1080 pixels. Subtracting the black bars, you end up with 1920x810 pixels holding actual image information, or 6 times as many pixels as the DVD counterpart.
Then you could send these pictures untouched to e.g. a good video projector or HDMI plasma/LCD TV, as 1080p24, or SourceDirect as they call it in BluRay. Crisper picture than you've ever seen.
By the way, the BluRay disc of FAFDM is already listed on amazon.com, sign up for the notification e-mail to show your interest in Leone on BluRay!
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Hmm are you a Sony Salesman ;D I can't wait to see it in BR/HD, still won't beat seeing the films in the cinema.
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I ain't gonna go buy a blue-ray player or a LCD in the near future, the maim querstion is will it play in a regular DVD player?
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No, I'm sorry Joe, have to buy a Blue Ray player to buy the disc (or buy a PS3) :(
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Hmm are you a Sony Salesman ;D I can't wait to see it in BR/HD, still won't beat seeing the films in the cinema.
No, but I work in the industry. I'm writing software for media processors, and I get to play with all this high-res stuff every day :)
I agree with your feelings about film vs. digital, nothing beats a clean, new copy on a good projector. Unfortunately, most copies are rather worn out, and most projectors aren't in pristine condition either. For a digital picture to match film, you'll have to wait until 4k (4096x4096 pixel) technology is avaiable to the masses. Give it a decade or two.
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I work in film post-production as an Film Editors Assistant. Working in HD is a big headache for a lot of people over here in London as a lot of producers are using it, but don't understand it which leads to lots of problems our end when logging and loading into Avid's of FCP.
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No, I'm sorry Joe, have to buy a Blue Ray player to buy the disc (or buy a PS3)
I feel so bad, 8)
Ok, next best thing then, can a blueray release be copied as a bootleg regular DVD? ;D
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I feel so bad, 8)
dont be. I think its ridiculous that we have to now spend more cash on another dvd player just for more memory.
I thought dvd was the vhs of the future?
"Future" meaning: throughout the rest of fucking history!
why the hell do I have to spend hard earned cash on "dvd player 2.0" (basically) just so I can watch films I already have?
Now you listen to me you money grubbing, mother fucking, fairy buisness men... you have TWO options
you release the Dollars SPs on regular dvd and Blue ray
OR
you can have the sight of my middle finger in close vinicity of your faces!
Ya Gawd Damn Pricks! Eat shite and die!
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A word about the blu-ray format, and why I am so excited about it: Resolution! much more of it, to be exact:
A Movie (as you know, with 24 frames a second) is encoded on DVD as digital pictures with 720 by 480 pixels. For cinemascope/techniscope, the format Leone has been using, where you have the black bars on the top and bottom, this goes down to 720x360 for anamorphic (16:9) images, and even around 720x270 for non-anamorphic (4:3) DVDs. Not very many pixels...
On Blu-Ray, pictures can be encoded as 1080p, that is 1920x1080 pixels. Subtracting the black bars, you end up with 1920x810 pixels holding actual image information, or 6 times as many pixels as the DVD counterpart.
Then you could send these pictures untouched to e.g. a good video projector or HDMI plasma/LCD TV, as 1080p24, or SourceDirect as they call it in BluRay. Crisper picture than you've ever seen.
By the way, the BluRay disc of FAFDM is already listed on amazon.com, sign up for the notification e-mail to show your interest in Leone on BluRay!
Hi,
This is my first post. Thanks for having me on your group. I have been knocking myself out trying to figure out the HD format etc.
Currently I have a 32" 16x9 HD Flat Screen Philips CRT.
My DVD player is 480p progressive scan and the HDTV accepts the 3 color component cables. The TV projects at 480p and OUATITW & GBU Special Editions look SUPERB!
Now this Philips HDTV does not have DVI input. If I buy the Blu-ray DVD I will A need a Blu-ray player....correct? B will the new Blu-ray disc and player transmit a 1080i signal through my 3 color component cables I currently use for 480p in progressive mode. I do not see a 720p or 1080i option on my HDTV..... Does one need a DVI input to go beyond 480p??
I understand a PAL Anamorphic DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV has more resolution than a NTSC DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV....
In any case it is hard to believe a film can look better than OUTITW at 480p in prog-scan on a 16x9 HDTV CRT Flat screen monitor.
Thanks for any information in advance..
Cheers,
Eric
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Hi,
This is my first post. Thanks for having me on your group. I have been knocking myself out trying to figure out the HD format etc.
Currently I have a 32" 16x9 HD Flat Screen Philips CRT.
My DVD player is 480p progressive scan and the HDTV accepts the 3 color component cables. The TV projects at 480p and OUATITW & GBU Special Editions look SUPERB!
Now this Philips HDTV does not have DVI input. If I buy the Blu-ray DVD I will A need a Blu-ray player....correct? B will the new Blu-ray disc and player transmit a 1080i signal through my 3 color component cables I currently use for 480p in progressive mode. I do not see a 720p or 1080i option on my HDTV..... Does one need a DVI input to go beyond 480p??
I understand a PAL Anamorphic DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV has more resolution than a NTSC DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV....
In any case it is hard to believe a film can look better than OUTITW at 480p in prog-scan on a 16x9 HDTV CRT Flat screen monitor.
Thanks for any information in advance..
Cheers,
Eric
Welcome to the boards McBain. :)
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no way am I buying one anytime soon, good luck.
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Thanks for having me...
Any ideas on the DVD questions I had...
Cheers,
Eric
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I don't know sh*t from shinola with Blue Ray, but some others on here may wait for this evening when more members show up. 8)
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Hi,
This is my first post. Thanks for having me on your group. I have been knocking myself out trying to figure out the HD format etc.
Currently I have a 32" 16x9 HD Flat Screen Philips CRT.
My DVD player is 480p progressive scan and the HDTV accepts the 3 color component cables. The TV projects at 480p and OUATITW & GBU Special Editions look SUPERB!
Now this Philips HDTV does not have DVI input. If I buy the Blu-ray DVD I will A need a Blu-ray player....correct? B will the new Blu-ray disc and player transmit a 1080i signal through my 3 color component cables I currently use for 480p in progressive mode. I do not see a 720p or 1080i option on my HDTV..... Does one need a DVI input to go beyond 480p??
I understand a PAL Anamorphic DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV has more resolution than a NTSC DVD playing on a 16x9 HDTV....
In any case it is hard to believe a film can look better than OUTITW at 480p in prog-scan on a 16x9 HDTV CRT Flat screen monitor.
Thanks for any information in advance..
Cheers,
Eric
Hi Mcbain, I'l try some answers with your questions
a) Yes you will need to get a Blue-Ray DVD player
b) On my HD TV I have an HDMI point and lead going from my HDMI DVD player to the HD TV. I think you will need a DVI lead to get HD, but there must be a point on your HDTV to accept and HD source, such as HD cable or Satellite. hmm, have you checked the manuel for the TV and see what it says regarding outside HD Sources?
c) Yes PAL anamorphic does look better then NTSC anamorphic however it seems that most studio's produce their best PQ on NTSC releases. One thing to be wary of with PAL releases is PAL speedup which is where the sound has been sped up to match the new qualities for the PAL presentation (PAL has more visual lines then that of NTSC which equals in improved picture quality but also a shorter run length and the sound has to be adjusted accordingly)
I know C may sound a bit jumbled and I apologies but I hope I have gone some way in answering your questions. :)
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for the TV and see what it says regarding outside HD Sources?
c) Yes PAL anamorphic does look better then NTSC anamorphic however it seems that most studio's produce their best PQ on NTSC releases. One thing to be wary of with PAL releases is PAL speedup which is where the sound has been sped up to match the new qualities for the PAL presentation (PAL has more visual lines then that of NTSC which equals in improved picture quality but also a shorter run length and the sound has to be adjusted accordingly)
I saw the beginning of OUATITW in the PAL speed-up and it was quite irritating! >:(
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There is a marked difference, the worst one I ever heard I thing was Futurama and MST3K The Movie's whose PAL speed up can tak quite a bit of getting used to if your more used to watching the NTSC counterparts.
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There is a marked difference, the worst one I ever heard I thing was Futurama and MST3K The Movie's whose PAL speed up can tak quite a bit of getting used to if your more used to watching the NTSC counterparts.
Futurama sped up must look so bad it must be funny!
I'm use to watching NTSC R1 DVDs, so it's going to take a long time to get use to.
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I think about 90% of the DVD's I own are R1 and alot of it has to do with more extras, sharper image, original mono etc.
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Not only that but the music is different with the speed-up. It's really frustrating for me, and I'm going to be getting that Region free DVD player for my birthday!
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dont be. I think its ridiculous that we have to now spend more cash on another dvd player just for more memory.
I thought dvd was the vhs of the future?
"Future" meaning: throughout the rest of fucking history!
why the hell do I have to spend hard earned cash on "dvd player 2.0" (basically) just so I can watch films I already have?
Now you listen to me you money grubbing, mother fucking, fairy buisness men... you have TWO options
you release the Dollars SPs on regular dvd and Blue ray
OR
you can have the sight of my middle finger in close vinicity of your faces!
Ya Gawd Damn Pricks! Eat shite and die!
Hah hah, my sentiments exactly Firecracker! ;D You get a cookie!
At least there's a significant difference between VHS and DVD. I don't see why I would need a BluRay either. That makes a dinosaur, so be it. :P
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You get a cookie!
Kelley's Heroes? Oh, sorry, that's another thread.....
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Hi Mcbain, I'l try some answers with your questions
a) Yes you will need to get a Blue-Ray DVD player
b) On my HD TV I have an HDMI point and lead going from my HDMI DVD player to the HD TV. I think you will need a DVI lead to get HD, but there must be a point on your HDTV to accept and HD source, such as HD cable or Satellite. hmm, have you checked the manuel for the TV and see what it says regarding outside HD Sources?
c) Yes PAL anamorphic does look better then NTSC anamorphic however it seems that most studio's produce their best PQ on NTSC releases. One thing to be wary of with PAL releases is PAL speedup which is where the sound has been sped up to match the new qualities for the PAL presentation (PAL has more visual lines then that of NTSC which equals in improved picture quality but also a shorter run length and the sound has to be adjusted accordingly)
I know C may sound a bit jumbled and I apologies but I hope I have gone some way in answering your questions.
Hey Cigar Joe..
Thanks for the info. My HDTV has compenent video inputs (2 sets) the 3 color RCA inputs for progressive scan. When a progressive DVD player with compenent outputs is plugged in the screen say's (480p). My question is can a component (3 color cable) carry a 720p or 1080i coming from a Blue Ray player. My manual does not say. The Model Monitor I have is a Philips 30PWH850 HDTV CRT.
One thing to check is...does a Blu-ray player have component video outs and DVI or just DVI. The component video outs on DVD players today are for prgressive scan at 480p.
There is a HD TV cable plug in on the back? We do not use this HDTV for cable TV programs only DVD movies. Just a thought if this is the only true HDTV input (for cable TV) will the Blu-ray player plug into this location somehow?
What is HDMI point and lead??
I was aware of the 4% speedup which really bothers me and futhermore...why would they allow such a thing in the first place??
Cheers,
Eric
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I never notice difference in ntsc and pal movies. except most pal movies are progressive. ntsc seem to favour 3:2 pulldown.
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I never notice difference in ntsc and pal movies. except most pal movies are progressive. ntsc seem to favour 3:2 pulldown.
PAL DVDs have a speed-up. It's not noticable if it's a movie you haven't seen or seen in a long time. But if you're use to seeing a certain movie in NTSC and then seeing it sped-up on PAL, the difference is noticable...and quite annoying.
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Hey Cigar Joe..
Thanks for the info. My HDTV has compenent video inputs (2 sets) the 3 color RCA inputs for progressive scan. When a progressive DVD player with compenent outputs is plugged in the screen say's (480p). My question is can a component (3 color cable) carry a 720p or 1080i coming from a Blue Ray player. My manual does not say. The Model Monitor I have is a Philips 30PWH850 HDTV CRT.
One thing to check is...does a Blu-ray player have component video outs and DVI or just DVI. The component video outs on DVD players today are for prgressive scan at 480p.
There is a HD TV cable plug in on the back? We do not use this HDTV for cable TV programs only DVD movies. Just a thought if this is the only true HDTV input (for cable TV) will the Blu-ray player plug into this location somehow?
What is HDMI point and lead??
I was aware of the 4% speedup which really bothers me and futhermore...why would they allow such a thing in the first place??
Cheers,
Eric
Hi Mcbain!
I guess I could let Joe have the credit for my post if you like ;D
I believe a component should be able to handle the 720i and 1080i, :)
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Hi Leone,
Sorry for the error.... ;D Thank you for your help! I hope you are right as I do not want to have to buy another HDTV to see the benifit (if there is any) to 720p or 1080i.
Cheers,
eric