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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: aaronson on September 09, 2003, 07:39:02 AM

Title: Nights and days
Post by: aaronson on September 09, 2003, 07:39:02 AM
When Max wait for Noodles at the jail gate it's during the day. It's a rainy day , but what time was it? 6PM or midday .. Nobody knows.
But they leave the jail during the day and they arrive in NY ... At  night.
Are we in winter when night falls at 5PM ? No, people don't wear wintercoat and the night seems warm.All the scenes after (robbery, car-falling in the water shall show that we are in spring or summer).
So the night fall around 8 PM?  OK it was at 8 PM
But Max shows Fat Moe restaurant, oh it's closed. At what time a restaurant close ? 10 PM, later ? .OK it was at 10.30 PM
But Max says" I will show you a place which never close...so we are after midnight?OK it was around 1or 2 A-M
But after few minutes Max presents Noodles  some mafiosi eating pastrami and, it's dawn !
It was at  5 A-M !

So the lenght of trip in funeral- car was 10 hours , the jail was very far from New York: it's also a part of  the explaination why nobody visit Noodles, the jail was at 500 miles  from NY, may be more .

And Noodles made love during 10 hours... Lucky guy.
And that's why the "dead" woman was very tired and refused a glass.
Title: Re:Nights and days
Post by: alexander on September 09, 2003, 08:53:29 AM
brilliant!
Title: Re:Nights and days
Post by: aaronson on September 11, 2003, 06:30:20 AM
Thanks, Alexander but what your feeling about this mystery: how could we explain that nobody visit Noodles during 15 years ?
Even the jail was very far and he has  himself choosen to refuse any contact (as he said to Deborah after dinner , on the beach)...
Title: Re:Nights and days
Post by: guybrush on September 11, 2003, 08:08:30 AM
Thanks, Alexander but what your feeling about this mystery: how could we explain that nobody visit Noodles during 15 years ?
Even the jail was very far and he has  himself choosen to refuse any contact (as he said to Deborah after dinner , on the beach)...
what if this is just one of the many crazy things Sergio Leone never bothered to fix while shooting the movie (supposing he noticed them, which is unlikely imho)?

Just like when he meets Max/Bailey for the first time after all those years... Noodles might have lived in the middle of nowhere for decades, but how is he supposed to have never seen the face of such a rich man / senator in any newspapers / television broadcasts?

Or maybe you are one of those who think it is all a dream? well, here is some more strange things: if it's a dream and he never 'left' the den opium in the thirties, how is Noodles supposed to imagine that thirty years later kids would play with frisbies, or people would watch TV, use phone boots, etc.?  

what do you think about that?

Title: Re:Nights and days
Post by: Ramon on September 11, 2003, 02:48:02 PM

I think that's the best explanation of why it wasn't a dream.

Although if there was orignially 12 hours of footage maybe Sergio cut out all the bits with people travelling in personal hovercrafts and jet-packs.
Title: Re: Nights and days
Post by: moviesceleton on October 21, 2007, 11:19:48 AM
BUMB!