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Films of Sergio Leone => A Fistful of Dollars => Topic started by: General Sibley on April 12, 2004, 03:53:26 AM

Title: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on April 12, 2004, 03:53:26 AM
Don Miguel is the only voice of reason in the Rojo household.  The poor old guy, it seems like every waking hour is spent restraining the violent passions of his brothers.  You can see the stress carved into his granite features.

It's a pity that a sage like Don Miguel had to be surrounded by hotheads like Ramon and Esteban.  My guess is that the three brothers inherited the Rojo family business from their father, and the ownership was then split into three equal shares - with Esteban on one side, Ramon on the other, and Don Miguel in the middle.  Bad management setup.  

In the Last Will and Testament of Padre Rojo, Don Miguel should have been appointed CEO of Rojo Tequila & Guns, LLC.  It could have forged ahead as a thriving enterprise well into the 21st Century.  Instead , it ended up as a pile of rotting corpses on a dusty street.  Oswald Spengler feared western civilazaton rushing into just this sort of destructive capitalism.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: KERMIT on April 12, 2004, 08:20:43 AM
don miguel rojo, RIP  :'(  
he's in a better place now........that is, if you call 8 feet of dirt a better place.  and for what ? so ramone could show off his rifle ? estaban is simply too painful to discuss. crazy mixed up kid with a serious wardrobe problem **the sombrero**!

it always goes that way for the DMR's of this world my friend. very sad indeed.   ramone might have concidered anger management, esteban, psycho analysis, but when a man w/ two psychopaths for brothers meets a man with no name, the man w/ no name will
always....well, you know the rest general.  





Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: DJIMBO on April 12, 2004, 02:05:11 PM

Wanted in fifteen counties of this state...the condemned sitting before us: Don Miguel Rojo (otherwise known as Benito Rojo - in Italian print).... ;D
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Groggy on April 12, 2004, 03:53:26 PM
Don Miguel is the only voice of reason in the Rojo household.  The poor old guy, it seems like every waking hour is spent restraining the violent passions of his brothers.  You can see the stress carved into his granite features.

It's a pity that a sage like Don Miguel had to be surrounded by hotheads like Ramon and Esteban.  My guess is that the three brothers inherited the Rojo family business from their father, and the ownership was then split into three equal shares - with Esteban on one side, Ramon on the other, and Don Miguel in the middle.  Bad management setup.  

In the Last Will and Testament of Padre Rojo, Don Miguel should have been appointed CEO of Rojo Tequila & Guns, LLC.  It could have forged ahead as a thriving enterprise well into the 21st Century.  Instead , it ended up as a pile of rotting corpses on a dusty street.  Oswald Spengler feared western civilazaton rushing into just this sort of destructive capitalism.

The Rojos probably would've been legit if it weren't for Esteban and Ramon.  Don Miguel (aka Benito) was IMO a likeable, reasonable kinda guy (who looks more than a little like my sixth grade teacher ;D) who didn't want any killing - or any more than absolutely necessary.  The Baxters were very willing to have a stable peace; it was the Rojos (and of course Joe) who wanted war.  I'm sure you remember Ramon's touching speech about laying low for a few years and then masscaring the Baxters when they least expect it.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on April 15, 2004, 03:34:53 PM

Wanted in fifteen counties of this state...the condemned sitting before us: Don Miguel Rojo (otherwise known as Benito Rojo - in Italian print).... ;D

Benito Rojo - not even Don Benito?  The Italians stripped him of his nobility, that's pretty low.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: KERMIT on April 15, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
Benito Rojo - not even Don Benito?  The Italians stripped him of his nobility, that's pretty low.
:'(don miguel benito rojo never gets a break. :'(

psycopathic brothers hooked by the vice of killing
misspelled name on movie poster
looks like a sixth grade teacher
not olny stripped of nobility, but stripped of rojo mojo.

Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on April 17, 2004, 05:51:24 AM
.  ... I'm sure you remember Ramon's touching speech about laying low for a few years and then masscaring the Baxters when they least expect it.

Exactly my point!  How can you expect Don Miguel to run a multinational enterprise when you have a lunatic like Ramon on your executive management team?  DMR is trying to maintain a comfortable duopoly with Baxter & Co., and all Ramon can think is kill, kill, kill.  This leaves an opening for parasitic investment banking types like Joe to exploit.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Groggy on April 17, 2004, 04:55:37 PM
Exactly my point!  How can you expect Don Miguel to run a multinational enterprise when you have a lunatic like Ramon on your executive management team?  DMR is trying to maintain a comfortable duopoly with Baxter & Co., and all Ramon can think is kill, kill, kill.  This leaves an opening for parasitic investment banking types like Joe to exploit.

Ramon is SO not a team player. :P
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Groggy on April 17, 2004, 04:56:36 PM
:'(don miguel benito rojo never gets a break. :'(

psycopathic brothers hooked by the vice of killing
misspelled name on movie poster
looks like a sixth grade teacher
not olny stripped of nobility, but stripped of rojo mojo.



Does it help that I thought that my sixth grade teacher was kind of a jerk . . .  :-\
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: mortimerforever on June 09, 2004, 01:17:15 PM
why does joe kill don miguel at the end? the poor old guy didn't even have a gun[as far as i know].

r.i.p

don miguel rojo

alias benito rojo

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aim for the heart or you'll never stop me.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on June 09, 2004, 02:45:44 PM
why does joe kill don miguel at the end? the poor old guy didn't even have a gun as far as i know

Joe was no fool - he knew that in order to kill the snake you have to cut off the head.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: mortimerforever on June 11, 2004, 08:59:57 AM
if you wanted to know about antonio prieto who plays don miguel, heres all i could find.

born in chile

often credited as anton prieter

first movie Federales y unitarios (1927)

most recent movie Flor salvaje (1968)  

not sure if he's alive or not.

if then keep up the good work.

if not then maybe he'll finally escape from people like esteban and ramon.


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the americano can't wait to get into action.
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on April 28, 2005, 05:51:54 PM
 Don Miguel Rojo (Antonio Prieto) is still alive, in fact, he lives in Viña del Mar - Chile (the same city where I live) . He is owner of a icecream store called: "Bravissimo") I hope talk to him about his character in the film soon

Bye Gringos
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: redyred on April 29, 2005, 06:23:40 AM
Seriously? If his first film was in 1927 he must be about a hundred by now!
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on April 29, 2005, 11:58:21 AM
I`m not sure about  how many year old he is. But I can tell you that I met to him (face to face) around 3 years ago in a sale of horses and he looked good. I have thought go to talk him and ask him a lot of question but I haven`t had time to do this. I`m usually go to get icecream at the "Bravissimo" and when I asked for him the manager have told me: He came here from time to time. He doesn`t have a special day.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: cigar joe on April 29, 2005, 05:08:40 PM
Hi Christian, you really have to ask him what it was like working with Leone, we'd all be interested in behinfd the scenes stuff.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: redyred on April 30, 2005, 04:07:42 AM
Actually, if you look at his IMDb filmography here (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0697391/), there is a huge gap between Federales y Unitarios (1927) and what it lists as his 2nd film - Murió hace quince años (1954). From then on there's a fairly steady stream of films up til his last in 1968, when he presumably retired from acting. My guess is the Federales film is on there as a mistake - quite common on IMDb for lesser known actors - and the film probably featured another actor with the same name. So perhaps he's not so ancient after all. I'd say he looks about 40 in FoD - so maybe in his 80s now.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: mortimerforever on May 04, 2005, 09:49:59 AM
well, if you do see him, say hi from all of us.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on May 05, 2005, 04:45:52 PM
Of course I`ll tell him that. I know there are a lot of people who want details about A fistfull of Dollar
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on May 10, 2005, 08:55:57 AM
Of course I`ll tell him that. I know there are a lot of people who want details about A fistfull of Dollar

When you see him, make sure he clearly understands that sometimes a man's life can depend upon a mere scrap of information. 
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Nobody on May 10, 2005, 03:58:17 PM
Please come back with some old Mexican proverbs. And ask him how it was like working with Baby Jesus. Was he as fun in real life as he is in the movie?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: KERMIT on May 11, 2005, 05:57:39 AM
if it's not to much trouble, find out why the baxters never installed a back door to their house. 
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on May 11, 2005, 06:21:51 AM
Take a deep breath and try and be calm when you speak to him.  Just think - what if your hand should shake a little, and that gringo so fast on the draw?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on May 13, 2005, 12:20:47 AM
I get his phone number at home and office, but I still can`t make up my mind if I should call him to can ask him by phone or try to get an appointment.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: KERMIT on May 13, 2005, 05:07:06 AM
 ask if he'll grant an interview, for 30 minutes on audio tape.  in exchange, you buy twenty bucks of his ice cream. it's his progrativte if he dosn't want to discuss FOD.

tell him about us.

what was leone's mood when he was on the set ?

what was gian maria like to work with ?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on May 13, 2005, 01:29:38 PM
Yes, you definitely need to get the face-to-face interview.  Flatter him, tell him he has a face that belongs on Mt Rushmore:

(http://www.travelsd.com/parks/rushmore/images/rushmore.jpg)
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Poggle on May 13, 2005, 07:48:33 PM
Ask him if Esteban ever tried to make any moves on him. Was he creeped out by him?

Esteban is such sleazy nightclub trash it's scary. Dancing with his tight jeans, his shirt with the top three buttons undone revealing his hairy chest and a golden chain tangled in the hair and his beer breath and the smell of strong perspiration mixing with really strong Kevin Cleine cologne that he soaked himself in.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: redyred on May 15, 2005, 04:11:36 AM
mixing with really strong Kevin Cleine cologne that he soaked himself in.

That'll be Calvin's less succesful brother I presume?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on May 19, 2005, 06:56:21 PM
Be patient all of you, I have been trying to get a recording machine. It almost doesn`t exist on the market around here.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Beebs on June 05, 2005, 08:50:48 AM
I'm going to stick with the General from the mighty CS of A.
Don Miguel is cut a little short. I'll never forget his fear and amaze when Clint emerges from the clearing smoke of the dinamite.  What a fine CEO he would have made. I believe he was unarmed when he was shot, am I wrong?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: General Sibley on July 29, 2005, 01:26:44 PM
I`m not sure about how many year old he is. But I can tell you that I met to him (face to face) around 3 years ago in a sale of horses and he looked good. I have thought go to talk him and ask him a lot of question but I haven`t had time to do this. I`m usually go to get icecream at the "Bravissimo" and when I asked for him the manager have told me: He came here from time to time. He doesn`t have a special day.

Well Christian, did you ever talk to The Man?   Ask him if he knows about a certain "cash box"
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on July 28, 2006, 06:56:44 AM
Yes, Christian, if you ever manage to make that interview, it will be the most welcome thing here, I guess.  ;)

I would like to know, why did they name him Benito in Italy and Miguel in other countries? It really disturbs me. I have DVD in Italian with subtitles and he is called Benito, but there is Miguel in the subtitles... that's really crappy.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 29, 2006, 11:55:35 AM
I have DVD in Italian with subtitles and he is called Benito, but there is Miguel in the subtitles... that's really crappy.

That's crazy!
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on August 05, 2006, 01:27:06 PM
That's crazy!

Yes! It's completelly stupid. Why did they do such thing?

I have to add a quote from other of my favourite films, Local Hero...
"He had a name. Two names!"
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: mortimerforever on June 10, 2010, 02:08:36 AM
According to the Internet, Antonio Prieto is also a successful singer, he scored a hot with 'La Novia', look it up. I never knew Don Miguel could sing? He missed up on his calling in life, going into crooning instead of bootlegging.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on June 10, 2010, 11:54:04 AM
I never knew Don Miguel could sing? He missed up on his calling in life, going into crooning instead of bootlegging.

I guess it had something to do with there being no musical records back in his days...

But thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Jordan Krug on June 10, 2010, 07:41:23 PM
He's not a saint though, remember all the shots of him enjoying the Baxter massacre? Smiling, laughing....
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: sargatanas on June 16, 2010, 08:09:41 AM
it was chief rifle tosser rubio, the brother ramone never had, that was responsible for interpreting Leone's Italian to Clint, & Clint's English to Leone
Title: Re:Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: iceman on November 27, 2010, 04:50:13 PM
if you wanted to know about antonio prieto who plays don miguel, heres all i could find.

born in chile

often credited as anton prieter

first movie Federales y unitarios (1927)

most recent movie Flor salvaje (1968)  

not sure if he's alive or not.

if then keep up the good work.

if not then maybe he'll finally escape from people like esteban and ramon.


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the americano can't wait to get into action.

Check out wikipedia...It says he was Born in 1927...here       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Prieto_%28actor%29

ICE
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on November 28, 2010, 12:15:47 PM
I don't know... he looked older than 37 in the film to me... but that might be just my usual bad age-guessing skills.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: iceman on November 29, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
I don't know... he looked older than 37 in the film to me... but that might be just my usual bad age-guessing skills.

Gotta agree with you there MARM...I would have said he was more 67 than 37

ICE
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: El Gorila on May 02, 2011, 07:01:00 PM
Gotta agree with you there MARM...I would have said he was more 67 than 37

ICE

He must have had one hell of a hard life to look like that at 37 !
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Noodles_SlowStir on July 16, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
Singer/Actor Antonio Prieto passes away at age 85.

http://news.yahoo.com/chilean-singer-actor-antonio-prieto-dies-85-081607826.html
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: cigar joe on July 16, 2011, 04:28:08 PM
RIP Don Miguel  :'(
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 16, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
RIP Don Miguel  :'(

So he was only about 38 when FOD was filmed? He seemed a lot older than that...
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: sargatanas on July 17, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
don Miguel also possessed a dynamite singing voice w/ several albums out. 
hey, the dude was on the big screen and he like split man.  somebody mentioned don Miguel
had a smile on his face during the Baxter massacre.
that was all fake. if you'd been there w/ ramone you'd be smiling too. if  Joe wouldn't come to town
there were more record deals rolling in for don.
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: stanton on July 17, 2011, 05:51:02 AM
Tom Betts at the SWDB:

"The Antonio Prieto who played Don Miguel Benito Rojo was Anonio Prieto Puerto who was born in Aspe, Spain in 1914 and died
of a heart attack in Madrid, Spain on March 3, 1965. This makes more sense as the recently deceased singer, actor is only 4 years
older then Clint Eastwood and the actor playing Don Miguel looks to be a much older actor."
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: El Gorila on July 17, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
RIP Don Miguel. :(
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 17, 2011, 04:57:58 PM
Tom Betts at the SWDB:

"The Antonio Prieto who played Don Miguel Benito Rojo was Anonio Prieto Puerto who was born in Aspe, Spain in 1914 and died
of a heart attack in Madrid, Spain on March 3, 1965. This makes more sense as the recently deceased singer, actor is only 4 years
older then Clint Eastwood and the actor playing Don Miguel looks to be a much older actor."


so he was 50 when FOD was filmed... that sounds more like it
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on August 20, 2011, 12:31:16 PM
It does. I thought it was suspicious. This makes sense...
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: iceman on August 25, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
so he was 50 when FOD was filmed... that sounds more like it

So is this guy a fake pretending to be Don miguel...?????

http://news.yahoo.com/chilean-singer-actor-antonio-prieto-dies-85-081607826.html

and here

http://enmemoria.lavanguardia.com/obituarios/antonio-prieto.html     (translate the page)

and here

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0697391/news#ni12949343

I think they used a great deal of make up to age him........he did seem to have a pock marked face

ICE
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: marmota-b on August 26, 2011, 12:49:09 AM
Oh dear. That's complicated. Is there a photo of the older Antonio Prieto anywhere?
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on January 19, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
 :) Hi gringos....!

It has been a long time since I posted something and…  here I am again to clear the doubt. As Tom Betts said upper, the actor who played Miguel Rojo is the spanish Antonio Prieto Puerto. The other Antonio Prieto, who recently passed away the last year, was the chilean singer and actor… who would not have any relation with the movie. Reading the book of Carlos Aguilar (spanish writer): "Leone" on page 132 appear: "... as the imposing Antonio Prieto, with his frog eyes and amazing face devoured by smallpox..."  To exit of doubts I questioned directly to Carlos Aguilar and told me it was a contemporary with the same name  confirming  this matter.

(http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j227/fotoschris/AntonioPrietoPuerto.jpg)
Antonio Prieto Puerto
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: dave jenkins on January 19, 2012, 07:48:35 PM
If I understand correctly, the man's family name was Prieto Puerto? Have I got that right? (So I can put the entry in the correct place in the SL Encyclopedia).
Title: Re: Don Miguel Rojo
Post by: Christian on January 20, 2012, 08:28:04 AM
That`s right