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Nice 😊

Without giving too much away, could you possibly just tell me if I?m wasting my time periodically browsing Japanese auction sites to pick up a certain OOP disc ?

I'm always looking out for stuff like this of course. Alternative TV-versions etc. No luck so far.

But 2023/2024 will be superb years regarding Peckinpah releases. I am working on big stuff. Wish I could
talk about it, but I can't of course. I never reveal anything before the labels make the announcement...

Seriously looking forward to it!

So what?s all this about an alternative cut of The Killer Elite

Looks like an article on the cinema retro site has clarified the matter:

The first disc presents the ?original? theatrical version in a 1080p high definition transfer from MGM that runs 2 hours and 3 minutes, and includes a ton of bonus features, most notable of which is a fabulous audio commentary by Peckinpah expert Mike Siegel. He provides some terrific revelations about the film and its production and shows a real appreciation of Peckinpah?s work. Siegel indicates that Sam, at Bo Hopkins? suggestion, filmed an alternate ?absurdist? ending in which Locken and Mac find Miller alive and well aboard the sailboat, after having been seen getting shot to pieces. In an interview with Siegel, Hopkins confirms that bit of info, and even shows some footage of the scene that was finally excised by the bosses at United Artists, who just didn?t get it. In a separate commentary ported over from a previous Twilight Time release, Garner Simmons and Paul Seydor, two film historians whom I lovingly refer to as the Peckinpah Peckerwoods, and the late Nick Redman, make the assertion that the complete film, with the Jerome Miller ?resurrection? scene had one showing in Northern California and has never been seen again.

Well, I beg to differ with that statement. Fellow Cinema Retro reviewer Fred Blosser and I saw The Killer Elite the night it opened in December 19, 1975 at a local theater in northern Virginia. The scene in question was definitely included. Fred states that he has also seen it in the occasional TV broadcast of the film. So, despite statements made to the contrary, there probably is at least one copy of the unexpurgated ?The Killer Elite? out there somewhere. JEROME MILLER LIVES!

Mike, after your achievements with the Osterman Weekend, here?s your next challenge. Unearthing the intact scene!

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: December 22, 2022, 01:17:43 PM »
What are your take on Jackie and Spencer? I thought they were interesting but now that I've seen Ema they both look quite disappointing.

Jackie is amazing. Spencer is really good.

Was a little underwhelmed by Ema because of the plot, but the brilliant craftsmanship was there as usual

Totally disagree with DJ about Neruda, which is also amazing. Totally agree with DJ about ?No?

Couldn?t get through Tony Manero: it was too unpleasant.

Loved Fuga.

Haven?t seen The Club or Post Mortem.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Sight & Sound Polls 2022
« on: December 07, 2022, 05:07:24 PM »
I?ll check out some of the examples you shared.

I think I need to watch Tokyo Story again. I watched it when I was young and didn?t appreciate it much, but maybe I?ll find more to appreciate in my dotage (ok so I?m not that old at all)

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Sight & Sound Polls 2022
« on: December 07, 2022, 04:54:09 PM »
Hold on. I?m not talking about individual scenes with a static camera. Nothing wrong with that at all. I?m talking about a static camera throughout. That is surely missing the point of the medium.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Sight & Sound Polls 2022
« on: December 07, 2022, 06:27:27 AM »
To me, cinema without camera movement and editing (I?m adding that in) is just a stage play. Granted, one at a very specific angle as if all viewers are in the same seat with the same lighting effects as a controlled photograph.

So, go ahead and name a few ?great? examples. Maybe you can convince me otherwise. I might even have seen them ?

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Sight & Sound Polls 2022
« on: December 06, 2022, 07:41:02 PM »
No reason you should, unless you enjoy the cinematic equivalent of watching paint dry.

The write up on the S&S website is interesting:

It rigorously records her domestic routine in extended time and from a fixed camera position

Why would someone waste the cinematic medium by keeping the camera fixed the whole time? Might I also assume that there is no brilliant editing either?

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Sight & Sound Polls 2022
« on: December 06, 2022, 07:33:33 PM »
Never heard of it,  lol.

Nor have I.

The one good thing about this year's lists is that the magazine also publishes the individual lists of its high profile contributors. I don't have a copy of the magazine, but over at criterionforum some posters do, and they're sharing photos of some of the pages. Here's one that might be of interest to readers here:

Michael Man?s list reminds me just how good Pale Flower is.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Cinema Speculation (Tarantino book)
« on: November 11, 2022, 08:27:41 AM »
It was a PG?!

Other Films / Re: Django Unchained (2013) - QT's SW
« on: November 11, 2022, 08:24:37 AM »
I wasn?t sold on this one. It took Jackie Brown, good chunks of The Hateful Eight, and everything but the ending of Once Upon. Time in Hollywood, for me to truly appreciate Tarantino. Apart from Jackie Brown, he seems to be getting better with age in my opinion.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Cinema Speculation (Tarantino book)
« on: November 10, 2022, 12:21:22 PM »
The behind-the-scenes shot from The Getaway on the cover is a nice choice. Any choice tidbits he has to share on that one? I might need to put this book on my Santa list.

Will need to pick up a copy:

Finally got my hands on a copy.

I enjoyed your Convoy and Osterman articles on the rediscovered scenes/cuts really informative, Mike!

Of course, now I just want someone?Imprint, are you reading this??to release the Japanese cut of Convoy again.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: I, the Jury (1953)
« on: October 28, 2022, 10:40:20 AM »
Tempted to get it just to marvel at the magnificence of John Alton?s work

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