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Off-Topic Discussion / Nightmare Alley (2021)
« on: September 18, 2021, 10:41:13 PM »

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / TCM screening 9/6/2021
« on: September 06, 2021, 10:01:54 PM »
Whatever release that they used (extended cut) the grass was way too green especially noticeable at Sad Hill during Ecstasy Of Gold should be more of a burnt grass yellow.

Off-Topic Discussion / Tough Guys Don't Dance (1987)
« on: September 06, 2021, 07:30:21 AM »
Directed by Norman Mailer, written by Norman Mailer and by Robert Towne(uncredited).
Starring Ryan O'Neal,Isabella Rossellini, Debra Stipe, Lawrence Tierney, Wings Hauser, Frances Fisher, and Penn Jillette

Supposed to have been restored

Based on his novel, Norman Mailer adapted and directed this film of mystery and murder. An alcoholic ex-con/writer finds himself implicated in murderous plots but cannot seem to remember much. He sets out to investigate the case on his own. Featured are performances by Ryan O'Neal, Isabella Rossellini, Debra Sundland and Lawrence Tierney.

"It?s considered one of the worst movies ever made and one of the best ?so bad, it?s good? movies ever also. I saw it a long time ago expecting a neo-noir but came away laughing my ass off instead."

Anybody here see it? I don't remember it at all.

Off-Topic Discussion / Not cell phone friendly
« on: August 17, 2021, 05:47:29 PM »
Man is this site not cell phone user friendly. Being stuck in Hawaii and using the phone for most on line browsing bings the shortcomings home. Oh well leaving to go back to the real world tomorrow.

Off-Topic Discussion / Native Son (1951)
« on: February 23, 2021, 05:52:21 PM »
Director: Pierre Chenal (Sinners of Paris (1958)) written by Pierre Chenal and Richard Wright and based on the novel by Richard Wright. The film stars Richard Wright, Jean Wallace, Nicholas Joy Gloria Madison, Charles Cane, and George Rigaud.

Interesting film noir that delves into race relations with Buenos Aries filling in for Chicago.

Off-Topic Discussion / The Killers (1964)
« on: February 01, 2021, 03:44:33 AM »
Combined thread.

Quote from: titoli on February 05, 2011, 03:27:05 PM

The Killers (1964) I saw it first in the early 70's (but probably I'm wrong there, it seems that this got a circulation visa in 1978. The dubbing though seems like it was done in the '60's. I'm curious about the vicissitudes of the movie in Italy) in a cinema and was amazed. I saw it again twice on tv and was amazed again. Today I watched it again on a big screen (but, alas, the italian dvd is fullscreen) and, again, this is still one of my favourite movies. Still I give it only a 9\10 because I don't like Cassavetes, especially in the beginning (his grins while driving are ridiculous) though I like him when he discovers the truth. And I don't like Gulager, who tries his best to portray a nevrotic individual besieged by tics and with sudden violence eruptions but who, to me, looks rather nerdy, especially as he mostly seen shoulder to shoulder with the real thing. I also think that the racing sequence is too long). 

cigar joe

I don't recall ever seeing this film, so I watched it tonight, interesting retelling of the story, now I'll have to go back and watch the original version again, and possibly search out Hemingway's short story. I won't give it as high a rating as titoli, though.  Aside from Marvin, Akins, and Dickinson I really didn't like any of the characters.

Cassavetes again looks like a demented Jerry Lewis grinning and slightly cross-eyed. I just can't take his character seriously. The racing sequences are way too long (but I'm not a racing fan so it may be different strokes for different folks) and TV production values pale this film in comparison to the 46 version. Again for me the look of the stylized Noir lighting and sets just puts the original in another class, its worth a look to see Ronald Reagan playing a crook entertaining 7/10.


Eddie showed the 1964 remake of The Killers on Noir Alley, I posted the intro/outro in the thread for the 1946 film

Off-Topic Discussion / The Flame (1947)
« on: January 14, 2021, 05:57:38 PM »
A Christmas - New Year Noir Meller.

Directed by John H. Auer written by Lawrence Kimblefro a story by Robert T. Shannon.

Here's a "C" Noir from Republic Pictures that's just a bit of a ratchet up from every Hugo Hass "prodution" I've seen. But what Hugo always got right is the inclusion of a sleazy blonde bombshell in every one of his Noirs. A blonde who knew the sore and could always make a living on her back in a pinch

Auger includes a foreign born blonde but instead of sexy she comes off demure and mousy. Vera Ralston, a born in Czechoslovakia ice skater, is playing an ex French Nurse, she must be Republic's answer to Belita, another foreign blonde who failed to ignite in America.

Auer went to to make two other excellent noir The City That Never Sleeps and a favorite of mine Hell's Half Acre.

What The Flame has going for it is a great opening Noir eight minutes that has a jazzy almost rockabilly soundtrack, and then periodic appearances from Broderick Crawford and Constance Dowling which tend to make up for the draggy soap opera sequences.

The opening eight

After those first eight minutes the flame out begins when we get to the flashback. Much like The Set Up,( thought it's actual runtime is 1:37 minutes)  The Flame in real time takes place in the hour before 12 on New Years Eve.

Off-Topic Discussion / Lee Van Ceef in Raybans
« on: January 14, 2021, 05:22:15 PM »

Other Films / Frenchie (1950)
« on: December 05, 2020, 11:54:18 AM »
Directed by Louis King, written by Oscar Brodney (story and screenplay) starring Joel McCrea, Shelley Winters, Marie Windsor, Elsa Lanchester, John Russell, Regis Toomey. and Paul Kelly.

Frenchie Fontaine sells her successful gambling business in New Orleans nd heads West to find the men who killed her father, Frank Dawson. But she only knows one of the two who did and she's determined to find out the other. Entertaining to watch. Winters looks pretty good in this one. 6.5/10

Off-Topic Discussion / Nightfall (1956)
« on: November 09, 2020, 04:02:05 AM »
Directed by Jacques Tourneur, written by Stirling Silliphant based on a David Goodis novel. The film stars  Aldo Ray, Anne Bancroft, Brian Keith.

This never had a formal entry just a daisy chain of comments.

Off-Topic Discussion / Billy Bathgate (1991)
« on: October 30, 2020, 07:38:28 AM »
Directed by Robert Benton and written Tom Stoppard and based on the noel by E.L. Doctorow. Saw this before probably back in 1991 when it premiered in a theater. Watched the DVD last night. With all the water that's gone under the bridge in the intervening years, I was more impressed this go round. It's the story about the love that blossoms between Billy (Loren Dean), a teenaged gofer for Jewish Gangster Dutch Schultz played by Dustin Hoffman) and a sluming socialite wayward wife Drew Preston (Nicole Kidman). The rest of the cast is impressive Bruce Willis as Bo Weinberg, Steven Hill   as Otto Berman
Steve Buscemi as Irving and Stanley Tucci as Lucky Luciano. 7/10

Once Upon A Time In The West / According to Jack Elam
« on: August 16, 2020, 03:03:51 AM »
According to Jack Elam, there are five stages to a character actor?s career: (1) Who is Jack Elam? (2) Get me Jack Elam. (3) Get me a Jack Elam. (4) Get me a young Jack Elam. (5) Who?s Jack Elam?

Off-Topic Discussion / The Getaway (1994)
« on: August 14, 2020, 06:34:59 PM »
Well I finally rectified not seeing the 1994 remake. I wasn't expecting too much but was pleasantly surprised. I knew it was Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger taking the place of McQueen and MacGraw but didn't realize that the rest of the cast was a future all star line up. James Woods excepted Michael Madsen, Jennifer Tilly, Richard Farnsworth and Philip Seymour Hoffman. The others David Morse and James Stephens are OK. Some sequences are a bit more fleshed (wink, wink) out.

Director Roger Donaldson since he was making almost a shot by shot remake of Peckinpah couldn't screw it up too bad. I give it an 8/10

Off-Topic Discussion / Eddie Constantine
« on: July 28, 2020, 09:08:59 AM »
So here's the story. I'd seen him before a long time ago in Alphaville then a few years ago in an Italian gangster flick that titoli sent as a avi file, don't remember its name. So with those two films as a sampler I wasn't impressed.....

Then I was checking in a similar fashion the films of Diana Dors. Again like with Eddie Id seen her long ago in The Long Haul with Victor Mature then caught her again in The Unholy Wife. The first film wasn't much of a showcase but the second was better, however the film wasn't as good as it could have been. So my next sample was Tread Softly Stranger where Dors is a real sexpot who looks like she is going to constantly spill her boobs out of her various tops. It had some amusing in your face visual sexual innuendos like a giant rod poking into a hot furnace at an iron works rather than a fade to black when Dors and George Baker have sex.

So next up for Dors was Room 43 aka Passport to Shame more of an ensemble cast about the sex trade in London. The film also starred Herbert Lom as the pimp, Odile Versois, Brenda de Banzie, Robert Brown and Eddie Constantine in the lead playing a Canadian cab driver and speaking American English. That film was a 7-8/10 and Eddie was great it was an eye opener.

Eddie Constantine looks and sounds like he could be Michael Shannon's father.

Eddie Constantine

Michael Shannon

So I then fortunately found La m?me vert de aka Poison Ivy (1953) in an English language release, its cut slightly (there is a new Blu where you can see what got cut mostly a strip show act at the Shipwreck Bar) but its impressive for the second film by the director and first starring role for Constantine as character Lemule "Lemmie" Caution. Plus its shot all in Casablanca (no Rick's place though lol) and environs it was a decent 7/10. The English cut is on Amazon Prime the Blu is streaming on OK

Another eye opener is the Lemmie Caution US FBI character, who is a combination of James Bond 007 without the gadgets and Matt Helm's womanizer, always with a cigarette and drink in his hand and a bit of Daren McGavin's toned down version of Mike Hammer.

The Lemmie Caution character caught on in France and Europe like Lex Baker with Old Shatterhand in Germany and like Eastwood's The Man With No Name phenom caught on in Italy and eventually with the world.

Now trying to find more Caution flicks especially the second flick This Man Is Dangerous (1953) which is only available for streaming on Alocine and even though I joined, not available to stream.  :'(

Missing from any (known to me) sources are Dames Get Along aka Les femmes s'en balancent (1954) and Diamond Machine aka Vous pigez? (1955)

I have found Women Are Like That aka Comment qu'elle est? (1960) which was another 6-7/10 on Amazon Prime and the Italian titled Passoporto Falso which is ?a va ?tre ta f?te (1960) and is very well made I'm about 18 minutes into it on Youtube

I haven't searched for Ladies' Man aka Lemmy pour les dames (1962) Your Turn, Darling aka ? toi de faire... mignonne (1963)

After the above came Alphaville(1965)

Off-Topic Discussion / Tread Softly Stranger (1958) Brit Noir
« on: July 04, 2020, 05:53:58 PM »
Directed by Gordon Parry written by Jack Popplewell and Denis O'Dell (based on the play by George Minter) Starring Diana Dors, George Baker, Terence Morgan. Interesting little Noir showcasing Dors as the femme fatale to two brothers Dave and Johnny Mancell. Johnny was played by George Baker you may be familiar with from I, Claudius, he played Tiberius.

I think the opening sequence of this film may have been homaged in Get Carter

There are some humorous visual metaphors and Dors seems to constantly about to fall out of her dress/tops, only the friction between her boobs and the fabric miraculously seems to keep the film PG.

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