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« on: January 02, 2016, 03:55:18 AM »
Hi there,
Just before Christmas I tried again to purchase a pre-2004 dvd of the film. This is the third time that I have tried from Amazon and each time the seller has sent me some version from a western collection. What I am after is the released version that was available before it was given the treatment back in 2004, where the deleted scenes were extras.
Can anybody offer me any advise on how to get a UK copy of the film (official) that we all knew and loved for all those years.
I do not own a blue ray player by the way so it would dvd thag I am looking for.
Cheers
The Rat
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« on: October 18, 2014, 03:11:05 PM »
Just flicking through the channels, like you do on a Saturday night with a couple of whiskies and what do you know but TGTBATU is on ch5. It looked like the old pan anc scan that i grew up on, or at least not the beautiful widescreen, and it was the scene in the hospital...... "Tuco, where's water, I'll bring you water......." Apart from the obvious goosepimples because of it being the best film in the world I instantly wondered whether or not it would be the version with all the extras. I thought it couldnt be because of the pan n scan but it actually did turn out to be. It had the extra Tuco beating scene but they cut the bit where Wallace presses into Tuco's eyes. Who put that version together?? Can 'they' simply cut whatever they like??
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« on: October 12, 2013, 02:38:21 PM »
I turned it on at the minute that Clint is caught coming back in through the window and just before the beating scene.
The watching experience was far better than my dvd. Why is that? Is it because the quality is inferior and it is more reminiscent of my old vhs's?
Anyway one thing is for sure - when clint rolls the barrell down the sloped gangplank, crushing mario brega and his buddy i noticed that the camera shows a frame of their dead bodies. I'm certain that i have never seen that before. Is this some sort of old print? The picture is far lighter too.
I'm not just imagining this dudes......!
I'm taken a back by this, for the first time in a long time that whole scene was terrifying.
Edit, different angles on the baxter massacre too
Edit again, their were a few more frames of the baxter woman dying
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« on: November 18, 2012, 08:49:20 AM »
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« on: October 21, 2012, 12:53:20 PM »
Have we ever discussed the shot of Blondie, Angeleyes and some of his men on what looks like a train on the French trailer? It's only a couple of frames worth of film and appears at about 51 seconds into the trailer but I wonder whereabouts in the film it was to appear? Surely it had to be part of a whole sequence that was removed? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_V-wR4VrAA
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« on: February 10, 2012, 02:15:09 AM »
I'm gonna come clean, I hate what MGM did to the audio track of one of my favourite films. To be specific it's the gunshots that I hate. They sound absolutely ridiculous! They sound as though someone just pressed a trigger to apply the sound as they were watching the film.
I agree with other posters here that the extra scenes should have been optional, as in you could have chosen to watch them within the film or as extras.
I don't want to get too critical about that though as I was so pleased (I think I actually got drunk I was so happy!) to see them and that discussion is for another thread.... (the scenes, not me getting drunk)
What I am really wondering is will GBU get another treatment where the studios realise that the extra scenes should be optional and the old gunshots are re-instated? I don't believe that bullsh1t about them sounding weak after the audio track had been remastered.
They were pure works of art. I think I read somewhere about them being recorded in old gravel pits to get the ricochet effects.
I know that my every desire in life cannot be fulfilled but I reckon I share the views of many people and it would be staying in line with what the Boss originally intended.
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« on: January 03, 2012, 12:33:09 PM »
You guessed it, again taped off the telly in the very late 80's.
I preferred this to AFOD. I clearly welcomed Lee Van Cleef having loved him in GBU and I enjoyed the chemistry between his and Eastwood's character. I also liked the Jew's Harp twanging effects, the hunchback, Indio, the whore in the bath, the big t1tted hotel bird and all those small part actors that I recognised from the other 2 films.
It was better developed than AFOD in it's direction and vision. A natural progression for Leone I guess.
Anyway, this isn't supposed to be a review of any kind....
What was your first viewing?
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« on: December 30, 2011, 09:51:25 AM »
As simple as the subject title says..... I know there are some "old codgers" (  ) around here that saw it when it came out in the theatres back in the day so let's get 'em listed. Mine was a home recording here in the UK in 1986 or '87.
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« on: November 30, 2011, 09:32:22 AM »
Just before the final dual when Tuco is slowly getting his pistol out of his pocket being watched by Angel Eyes, a real typical Leone style bit of shooting.
But what do you read from the expression on Tuco's face? He has an almost boyish look on his face towards the man that had him nearly beaten to death at the Betterville camp.
I have always wondered about this
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« on: November 04, 2011, 03:15:33 PM »
Something else that I have always wondered........
What exactly is it that makes the train passenger and conductor stop mid conversation whilst addressing Colonel Mortimer upon seeing the full frontal view of him? Is it because they realise that he is a man 'of the cloth'?
That's what I have always thought. If so, what exactly is it? He isn't wearing a dog collar or anything.....?
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« on: November 04, 2011, 03:10:21 PM »
I think I have wondered about this for the last 20+ years..........
Is there a longer version of the beating scene? I'm not trying to raise a cheap topic, I just ask because of the editing from Ramon lying on his bed saying "tell me what you know" to Clint's head being knocked down already covered in sweat and bleeding.
At this stage he has already taken one hell of a beating. Or at least the make-up suggests so.
I do think though that they filmed a longer version because Clint really does look like he has been through hell by this point. Check out how he takes the punch only a few seconds later from Rubio(sic). He looks like he has been battered. Not too far from how Eli looks in TGTB&TU.
This scene fascinates me. It is so well done.
Also, track 12 from the extended soundtrack is about 9 freaking minutes long. I have only listened to it once though (just now) and there does seem like some repetition.
Questions, questions........
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« on: November 03, 2011, 12:51:26 PM »
I'm enjoying watching FAFDM on my new TV and only the other week I had the soundtrack on in my car. It has reminded me just how much music is missing from the measily soundtrack that is available.
I know this isn't news to any of you but I wanted to ask if anyone knows of any plans or any realistic possibility of there being an expanded release like with AFOD (Per Un Pugno Di Dollari). I never got around to buying that one but will do one day - if it ever comes down from the stupid price on Amazon.
There is absolutely sh1t loads of music from FAFDM that is unreleased. Cues and whole pieces.
I really need this expanded soundtrack!
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« on: June 24, 2011, 12:28:39 AM »
Ok, this is really vague so I know it's a long shot.
Years ago after watching TGTB&TU I hired a western that starred LVC from the local video shop (those were the days) based purely on the fact that he was the main star.
I was disappointed with the film because I thought that it was going to be like TGTB&TU (I was only about 10) but I thought it was OK.
I really would like to nail down the title of the film to see if I can track it down online and watch it again.
I have watched many of the clips on youtube of films that LVC was in from the period after TGTB&TU when he became quite famous but I don't think I have found it.
The only thing that I can describe about it was the leitmotif used when he came onto the screen or did something and smiled. It was a bit like a jews harp and made a twanging sound (I know that sounds like FAFDM by I really don't mean that). The years really have faded my memory unfortunately.
Now, I know the smart arse here could say that the desription given could cover almost every Western that he was in but I reckon one of you will know the film I mean.
It may also have starred a red Indian in another leading role and I think LVC may have had longer hair.
Any ideas?
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