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I live! :D

It just occurred to me how perfect this play would be as a western. You have your outlaw anti-hero, his scheming evil brother, their landowner dad, the pure love interest, the gang of outlaws, a lot of gritty crime and violence, an extremely downer ending. (The brothers would certainly need to have a duel in a western, but otherwise not much would change.)

Other Films / Carlos (1971)
« on: May 14, 2018, 05:36:31 PM »

Has anyone seen this? Is it available in some form? It's apparently a western adaptation of Schiller's Don Carlos which is such a wild idea, I just have to see it XD

I have seen quite a few stage versions (mostly of the opera), but western? That's new.

Off-Topic Discussion / Cowboy Bebop
« on: June 14, 2017, 08:08:48 AM »
I couldn't find a thread, and I think it fits with the general theme - space noir with some western elements. Quite a gem with a unique athmosphere and good characterization. It has both nostalgic and sad episodes and the occasional crazy fun.

I think this is probably the only anime where I prefer the dub. Excellent voice actors.

Off-Topic Discussion / Any Whovians / Supernaturalists around?
« on: August 04, 2012, 11:01:23 AM »
Putting the two in one topic since the fandoms already crossover the hell out of them.

Doctor Who's new season is coming soon and it will have a western episode - can't wait for it!  >:D Although when did the Doctor begin to tolerate guns again I don't know.

I have watched all the new series by now and began the old episodes (which are hilarious). Honestly, I'm waiting for 11 to regenerate. Two seasons weren't enough to develop feeling towards him. He's too invincible and somehow can't deliver drama like 9 and 10 could. And bring the Master back.

As for Supernatural, I'm on season 4. I have a serious case of Castiel. (Wouldn't he be good for an Innocent Young Hero in a western? He has very expressive eyes. Give him a wise old mentor and let them kick ass.)

Once Upon A Time In The West / Frank's shirts
« on: June 23, 2011, 11:32:36 AM »
Every time I watch, I wonder why all of Frank's shirts have that little strap with the extra button.

This. It looks so cool.

Analyze  ;D

I plan another western novel (this time taking place in late 1870s/early 1880s) and some of my characters still need a name, or a half name. Since you're the most enthusiastic fans I know, I turn to you. You can surely come up with some good names.

Characters who need a name:

1. A mercenary. He's 40-something, dark, weather-beaten, often acts like a jerk and he's very bitter. (I cast him in my head as Robert Ryan.) Will take care of a Quaker girl despite them hating each other. Needs a full name.

2. Neil, needs a surname, a blonde lad, member of an outlaw gang. He's a gambler and pretty cold-blooded for his age. Might or might not have consumption, will decide later. No particular actor, any blonde, nice Spaghetti Actor Boy would do.

3. ... Blackwood, another member of that gang, needs a first name. He's the last survivor, tall, skinny, early graying, looks like James Coburn in his most badass roles.

4. Ruth, needs a very Quaker-sounding family name, daughter of a large farmer family who becomes the mercenary's companion. She's not a traditional heroine, just a plain-looking 16-year-old with a lot of freckles and strict morals. Even Queen Vicky would tell her to loosen up a bit. She hates the mercenary who shot her dog and even after she forgets him she won't tell out of pride, but they're forced to cooperate.

5. 4 sons of one Mother Katie. They're also part-time gang members but they live on their mom's farm, and said mom is more dangerous than the whole band of cutthroats. She's a good-hearted but strict matriarch who terrorizes her sons but if anyone tries to harm them or her friends, they better order their coffin. They need a family name and each son a first name.

Other cast members who have their names, just to make a full view:

- Henry Carleton, the gang leader, about 50. Tough but begins to feel his years. Cynical, or so he pretends, but vulnerable under the hard surface.
- Howell, a middle-aged Jason Robards type, a bit more lyrical and nice than the rest. He can even behave with women if he wants to.

- Vin Sheridan, a bounty hunter / psychopath. Pretty much a Jack Palance type. Chose to be a bounty hunter to get away with murdering people.
- Palmer and Lloyd, "those two bad guys" - bounty hunters, thieves, former scalp hunters
- Sam - aging drunkard bounty hunter as a homage to... Sam. Pretty useless in fight as he can barely aim anymore, but he's full of anecdotes.

The plot revolves around Mother Katie's farm and family, a gang of outlaws (they're no good) and gang of bounty hunters (the only difference between them and their prey is that the law and soem rich landowners are on their side). The mercenary knew some older gang members from the Civil War and he wants no part of this chaotic fight but of course he's dragged in when Sheridan destroys a Quaker farm for "hiding a bandit". (One of the gang members, wounded and on the run, hides of Ruth's farm and they help him without knowing who he is, and because they are Christians.)

The results? We're in for a local war with 3-4 sides, depending on the situation. There will be a lot of betrayal, death and hectoliters of blood. Young Ruth will lose her illusions (she shouldn't have read silly adventure books) about gunslingers, but the world that comes after them - we know it, it has fat capitalists, fences and dirty money - is even worse.

Off-Topic Discussion / The Duellists (1977)
« on: January 27, 2011, 11:58:13 AM »
The Fugitive is quite good, but... it's still just a Les Mis ripoff. TLJ surely rocks, he always does.

Just seen:

The Duellists (1977) - 9/10

If Ridley Scott COULD make a realistic, historically accurate movie, then what happened to him when he directed Gladiator?

But this one is simply beautiful. Like historical paintings. All those uniforms, hairstyles, characters, everything very true to the era and believeable. And man, is young Keith Carradine handsome!  ;) Plus you get badass obsessed Harvey Keitel + some really good, realistic fight scenes, no Flynning. The landscape and the colours are also gorgeous.

This movie needs more love. It's not too well-known.

Off-Topic Discussion / Published my Zapata Western as an ebook
« on: April 04, 2010, 05:12:18 AM »
Just in case you filmmakers would be interested...  ;D

Available here: ($)

Or here: (Euro)

Or course, some of you have already got it, and people of this site don't have to pay for it (favoritism, yay). Just PM me if you want one.

Off-Topic Discussion / An online western game
« on: May 02, 2009, 02:18:19 AM »

It's German, but it looks pretty good. I have to discover it yet.

Other Films / Carry On Cowboy!
« on: March 08, 2009, 01:29:30 PM »
Do you know the Carry On series? They're hilarious, and this piece is the definitive western parody. It mocks the classic American westerns.

Trivia Games / You Know You Are Obsessed With SWs When...
« on: September 20, 2008, 08:56:06 AM »
Obsessed Game!  :P


- You wear dusters
- You got a poncho
- You want a Colt Peacemaker
- You want to buy cigars, even though you don't smoke, just for the feeling.
- You know an SW quote for every situation.
- When you arrive with the train and somebody is waiting for you, you ask: "And Frank?"
- You desperately want to learn to play the harmonica.
- You practise the "Fonda walking style"
- You hang on this board all the time  ;)
- When a Typical SW Supporting Actor shows up, you can tell his name and his other roles and how many times he bit the dust in other movies.
- You cheer every time when they are in Los Albaricoques
- You watch people on the street and cast them: "He's a villain... he's a bounty hunter... he's an avenger... he's the Guy Who Dies After Five Minutes...

Add more! O0

Off-Topic Discussion / I've finished my SW novel
« on: April 05, 2008, 07:40:08 AM »
I said a few months ago I was writing a Zapata Western novel, it's complete now. The title is "Blessed By Death".
If you want to read it, just send me a PM, and I'll send it in e-mail. (It's a pretty long Word file.)

This is the story that begins with the duel in the church.

Trivia Games / Who recognizes this SW story? :D
« on: December 16, 2007, 07:46:26 AM »
I thought a popular story what could be a great SW. I will write the SW-ized story - who knows what it was? >:D

In a western town the local villain who in fact rules the territory, accuses a young girl with murder. The sheriff, a good but weak man, doesn't believe it, but he can't do anything. The villain's mistress, a former mexican whore, witnesses the murder. The girl says she's innocent.
Who will protect her?
Course the Nameless Hero, who enters the town, fights the bad guy and defeats him, but doesn't kill him. He has only one taboo: nobody should ask his name. Especially not the girl, who falls in love with him. (The hero could be Bronson.)
The ex-whore speaks with the girl and intrigues. The girl begins to suspect. Who's her lover? Probably a wanted bandit?
On the first night he asks the hero what his name is. The villain attacks the house. Great shoot-out, the hero kills the bad guy and his gang.
Next morning he says who he is, then proves that the murderer is the whore and not the good girl.
He must go. He leaves the girl and rides into the sunset.  ;D

A Fistful of Dollars / The small house
« on: November 10, 2007, 12:26:34 PM »
When Joe enters thw town at the beginning, he saw Marisol there and his husband's house on the opposite side. And he's in the town. Later the small house is quite far from the town...

Also, WTF?  ;D Houses can walk?

General Discussion / Favourite non-Leone SW villains
« on: November 06, 2007, 04:30:48 AM »
There are a lot of cool bad guys. Also, what's you top list and who-why?

I hope this thread doesn't exist yet. I haven't found. I there is one, just unite them...  ;)

My list:

1. Tigrero - well... could be anybody more evil and more mad?
2. Stengel - he has style...
3. John (from Companeros) - in fact, his falcon makes him more badass. Not to mention the weed and his wooden hand.
4. Chaco - Milian is always cool, but here he is really a sadistic SOB.
5. Adam Saxon - I like villains dressed in pure white...  >:D And he's soooo... strange.  ;D

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