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General Discussion / Re:previews
« on: May 02, 2003, 06:51:27 AM »

you're right, aaronson: sentenza means what you said.
For "angel eyes", this is a "mistake":
Leone wanted Henry fonda for the role, and fonda had, as you know, blue eyes. That's why the character is called angel eyes. He just kept his name after that fonda refused the role.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:THE PONCHO...
« on: May 01, 2003, 10:51:23 AM »
Sergio Leone himself said (in an intervew with Joel Simsolo) that gbu was the prolog of the others. After Gbu, clint goes in the south.
Sergio said that the right order is:
1 gbu
2 fod
3 ffdm

If you look at the weapons used in the 3 movies, that can be the right order: in gbu, clint uses a colt navy 1851, lee van cleef a remington army (the confederate model, i think). Those weapons were really used since the civil war (in the 1860's).
In fod, everybody has a peacemaker, and ramon has a winchester (i don't know the model: 66, 73, 76 or 94, but it must be the 73 or 76). The peacemaker, which real name is colt army 73, was used after 1876.
In ffdm, mortimer has a buntline special, used after 1895.
We all know that Leone isn't always realistic with the weapons, but that works with those 3 movies.

i understand what you mean... It is your opinion. For me, cinema is an art too, but the way you tell the stroy is (for me) as important as the story. I think you anderstood my opinion.

Just wondering: what are you exactly? what does exactly "half french" mean?

And you can't include ennio.... you HAVE to include him.

General Discussion / Re:Introduction scenes
« on: April 01, 2003, 07:47:11 AM »
ok, thanks!

General Discussion / previews
« on: March 31, 2003, 08:44:53 AM »
i'm not sure of the meaning of "preview"... is it exactly the little part of thes movies that will be coming soon that are showed before the film begin in the theatres?

If yes, does somebody knows where i can download sergio's previews? i've just the one of gbu on the dvd...


For a Few Dollars More / Re:The Man With No Name
« on: March 31, 2003, 08:41:22 AM »
I don't know what you are exactly saying: i don't i don't know what does monco means in english. Here is what i know about the man with no name's name :) :

Eastwood's name in french is : "le manchot", which means somebody with only one hand (may be it is the same with "monco" in english, i've no idea).

At the begining of the movie, he keeps one arm hidden under his poncho (and like that he can surprise some guys and kill them in drawing with the hidden hand).

General Discussion / Re:Best Leone movie
« on: March 31, 2003, 08:32:14 AM »
For me:
1: once upon a time in america
2: once upon a time in the west
3: the good, the bad and the ugly
4: fistful of dynamite
5: my name is nobody (almost leone)
6: for a few dollars more
7: a fistful of dollars

The notion (???) of "genius" is very personnal... my genius are not the same as yours...

I'm agree for "a fistful of dollars", but "fistful of dynamite" is in my top 20 (but under ouatia, ouatitw and gbu).

SHorty, i hope you are wrong, i hope that genius can exist in france... i would like to be a genius :)

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:THE PONCHO...
« on: March 31, 2003, 08:21:27 AM »
i'm pretty sure it is "one eyed jacks"

Other Films / Re:The new western hero
« on: March 30, 2003, 07:28:10 AM »
Edward norton
sean connery
and me :)

General Discussion / Re:Introduction scenes
« on: March 30, 2003, 07:24:49 AM »
when you see clint for the first time.

General Discussion / Introduction scenes
« on: March 29, 2003, 04:51:56 PM »
I think that one of the most important qualities of Leone is his introdution scenes (can i say that in english???).
If you forget the final duels, what do you really remember in leone's movies?

in GBU: the first part (until that "the good" is written on the screen) is the beest (on my mind).

in ouatw: the first scene is great great great... and after that the introduction of frank (for me the most beautiful introduction of a character ever made), and the one of jill and the one of the cheyenne...
in fistful of dynamite: when john appears...

in for a few dollars more: monco's apparition.

When you ask somebody to explain you ouatw, usually, the guy answer  "that was great, but i can't remember exactly... i recall three men in dusters, at the station, with a bog..."

I think that there is (for me) just one genius who did movies all over the world: it is sergio (may be orson wells...)
I think there is just one genius who did music: it is ennio.

For "le pacte des loups", you're right, it's an awful movie (if you call that a movie), but i think the director was trying yo imitate bad american movies.
For asterix, you're right, it is also bad.

I have never said there IS genius in france, i think there WERE.
Truffaut is an other kind of cinema that leone or scorsese. He did great great movies, and also other movies who were boring.
He isn't the only guy in france who did so great movies.

You (and i too) have a sensibility who makes you feel pictures and sounds. That's great. I am also open to other ideas of cinema. What is fabulous with leone, this is that he had all: pictures sensibility, sounds sensibility, script sensibility, time sensibility, music sensibility...
That's why he was for me THE genius.

I'm not a cultured man, but i can say that Maupassant was a genius (he was a writer).

And for the music... i think that YOU can't like the french (recent) music. All those guys (goldman, souchon, cabrel, sanson...) can't do what YOU may call music. They are more in texts that in the music, you know.

In fact, there isn't realy a lot of genius. I love cinema, i love scorsese, coppola, sometimes de palma, sometimes spielberg....
But no one of them is a genius.

FOr the conclusion, i think that we are in fact agree, but you think that cinema is pictures and sounds (for you, a good script isn't necessary, but it is only a good point), music (i think, because you didn't say anything) is really music and harmony, not texts, and books are for the texts.
This is your opinion (or i didn't understood anything :) ).

well, what did you really understand in this movie??? :)
My english isn't perfect, but i'll try to explain.

Max made all he could to make noodles betray (?) him.
Max had some pact with the police.
Max and the police killed the 2 other friends. (and noodles think it is his own fault)
Max tried to kill noodles too.
Max stole the money (that was why he killed the others).
Max was the real betrayer (?).

Max became a senator with this money.
Max did perhaps jump in the truck. According to Leone, the important point is that A MAN jumped in the garbage truck, and that FOR NOODLES, it is max. it is symbolic.

The lady (deborah, played by elisabeth mc govern) didn't change for a reason that i can't explain with my poor english, but i'm gonna trie: for a lot of reasons:
First, she is maked off (?), and we don't know her real face at this point of the story.
Second, in this scene, there is the old noodles, the young max (in fact, his son, or noodles "ghost" son), and the adult deborah: the three times of the movies are in this scene.

For the matter with joe pesci, i can't exactly remember what happened: it is my favorite movie, but i've seen it only 2 times (220 minutes version).

I hoppe it's a bit more clear for you.

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