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Off-Topic Discussion / Elevator to the Gallows (1958)
« on: July 19, 2007, 06:47:06 AM »
I think this french noir masterpiece deserves a thread of its own.  It's stunningly original, very suspenseful, is filmed with a distinct visual style that almost matches the coolness of Miles Davis' score. This movie really did blow my mind.  I haven't seen it for a few months, when I saw it the first time, so I can't go into too many details, but one thing I DO remember is how awesome I thought the movie was.

Seriously, the best french noir I've ever seen.

EDIT: By the way, when I first saw this movie, I felt like it was made in the sixties after I watched it.  I had no idea it was the fifties.

General Discussion / It's our Anniversary...
« on: July 09, 2007, 11:32:45 PM »
Seems longer than that, don't it?  It was back on July the 14th when I joined this  board (I'm a few days early, I know.)

Off-Topic Discussion / Waiting for Guffman
« on: June 27, 2007, 10:01:43 PM »
This movie is hilarious beyond words!  Christopher Guest of Spinal Tap and Best in Show fame writes, directs, and stars in this film.  It's about a flamboyant high school drama teacher named Corky St. Clair who lives in the fictional small town Blaine, Missouri.  He decides to create a production about the founding of the town (aptly named Red, White, and Blaine) for the 150th anniversery festival. 

I can't go into a whole lot of detail about why this mockumentary is funny, but I'm going to tell you right now to watch it!  Not only is it hilarious and quotable, but you also notice a lot of little things the second time around.  This is one movie that I suspect you could watch over and over again, without getting tired of the jokes.

I've obtained a 46 inch widescreen television which will be in my possession for the next year or so, and I thought to myself, "What better way to break this bad-boy in than playing ultra-violent video games on it?" 

And after that, I decided to watch OUATITW, as well.

It's funny, this is one of those movies that has many layers (y'know, like an onion).  Even after I thought i'd studied every frame of it, i noticed new things when i watched it on a large screen.  It mainly had to do with subtle reactions and expressions of actors, and there were two big ones that i wanted to bring up:

First off, Jason Robard's reaction when he first sees "Mr. Choo-Choo".  Whenever i watched this part on a small screen, it seemed like a typical Cheyenne reaction.  But, on a big screen, i noticed something different.  It seems that Cheyennes initial reaction right after he sees Morton turn around, is one of pity and sorrow.  I never noticed that before.  For just a second after he sees morton, his eyes and face drop as he scans Morton up and down.  I'd always thought this one of the most classic "pathetic" moments in the history of cinema.  Morton tries to escape Cheyenne and Harmonica, but of course he can only hobble on his crutches, and, even then, he can't actually get off the train.  Watching Morton stumble along to the other side of the cart always was sad, but I never saw that Cheyenne recognized this too.  As i mentioned before, it looks like he feels sorry for him for a second or two before he snaps back with a smirk and has to maintain his aura with his "two shiny rails" speech.

Second thing is a line that I've always liked, but never realized why until I saw it on a 46 inch tv.  It's the "Now i'm too used to a quiet, simple country life," line.  I see now why I've always liked that.  It seems as though that guy (I don't think the character had a name so I'll just call him Eunice) gives Claudia Cardinale her first real strong taste of the west.  He leans uncomfortably near her as he says it. The smoke from his cigar lingers near his yellow teeth as he exhales the words.  Any romanticised ideas there were in her mind must've been gone after that encounter.

So this thread is where you can post anything else you've noticed after you rewatch this movie.

Off-Topic Discussion / Saw This Guitar in the Store Today
« on: May 29, 2007, 06:36:46 PM »

Cheap beginner guitar... but with those graphics... i really wish that was MY beginner guitar! (Maybe then I wouldn't have sold it)

Off-Topic Discussion / Happy Birthday, Juan!
« on: April 21, 2007, 03:08:43 PM »
Let's hear it for XXXXIV!

Off-Topic Discussion / SLWB Radio
« on: April 07, 2007, 07:27:31 PM »
So, I just had this brilliant idea while I was listening to this awesome radio station I made (yes, made) on this neat-o mosquito website:

Basically, it's a website where you can put in all the artists you want for one specific radio station, and it'll play those artists and artists similar to what you've said you like.  And it's completely free.  So I decided the SLWB needs a community of these radio stations (once you've made one you can e-mail that station so that someone else can listen to it), so that we can all share our musical tastes.  What do you guys say?  Yay or Nay?

Off-Topic Discussion / Tim deleted his account....?
« on: April 07, 2007, 07:52:38 AM »
Our members are dropping like flies.

Off-Topic Discussion / "Why haven't they made a film about..."
« on: March 31, 2007, 11:48:05 AM »
This is a thread dedicated to all the real untapped stories that they could use for a film adaptation.

I was just wondering why they haven't made a movie about the Lewis and Clark expedition (or have they?).  Pretty amazing story (not to mention two of the manliest men who ever lived).  Of course, now if somebody made it they'd probably take the easy way out (gosh-darn blue/green-screens).


Another great story is the traditional tale of "Stagger Lee" aka Stagolee, Stackalee, Stack O'Lee, etc.  It's probably not long enough to make a feature out of, unless you added a lot of subplots and ficitionalization, but that's ok, because it's hard to tell what really happens in the story anyway.  If you don't already know, Stagger Lee is a song that's been recorded (literally) hundreds of times, and talks about how Stagger Lee shot and killed Billy Lyons (also DeLyons and DeLiles in some versions) over a five-dollar stetson hat that was stolen from him in some versions, simply touched by billy in other versions, and lost in a gambling game of cards in yet some other versions.  The only records of what truly happened are in a newspaper article on the killing, and all the songs (but the songs vary with nearly every version in details).  I understand there was a "graphic novel" on the subject recently.  I personally have never read a whole comic book in my life, but this one sounds interesting. I understand "Eric" is graphic-novel initiated.  Have you read it, Eric?

I happened to find two sets of lyrics from two of my favorite versions on Wikipedia.

This is a detailed one by Lloyd Price.

(intro) The night was clear, and the moon was yellow
And the leaves came tumblin' down. . .

I was standing on a corner
When I heard my bull dog bark
He was barking at two men
Who were gambling in the dark

It was Stagger Lee and Billy
Two men who gambled late
Stagger Lee threw a seven
Billy swore that he threw eight

Stagger Lee he told Billy
"I can't let you go with that
You won all o' my money
And my brand new Stetson hat."

Stagger Lee started off walking
Down that old railroad track
He turned and told Billy
"Don't be here when I come back"

Then old Stagger Lee, he went home
And he got his forty-four
He said "I'm going down to the barroom
To pay that debt I owe"

bridge: Go, Stagger Lee!

Stagger Lee went to the barroom
Walked across that barroom floor
He said, "Now, nobody move"
And he pulled out his forty-four

"Oh, Stagger Lee," cried Billy
"Please don't take my life
I got three little children
And a very sickly wife"

Stagger Lee... shot Billy
Oh, he shot that poor boy so bad
Till the bullet went through Billy
And it broke the bartender's glass.

And here's my personal favorite version, by Mississippi John Hurt:

Po-lice officer, how can it be?
You can 'rest everybody but cruel Stagolee
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Billy DeLyon told Stagolee, "Please don't take my life
I got two little babes and a darling, loving wife"
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

"What'd I care about your two little babes and darling, loving wife?
You done stole my Stetson hat, I'm bound to take your life."
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Boom boom, boom boom,
Went the forty-four.
Well when I spied Billy DeLyon
He's lyin' down on the floor.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Gentlemens of the Jury,
What you think of that?
Stagolee killed Billy DeLyon
'bout a five-dollar Stetson hat.
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Standin' on the gallows, head way up high
At twelve o'clock, they killed him, they's all glad to see him die
That bad man, oh cruel Stagolee

Off-Topic Discussion / Spaghetti Western Guitar Tabs!
« on: March 13, 2007, 04:18:54 PM »
The first contribution I have is the chords to the Django theme song.  It should be noted that these are from the Italian version of the theme, which is in a different key than the English version.  The only stuff I could listen to was the italian version of the song and the instrumental version, because I don't think you can get the English version on any CD.

The solo in the middle is easy to figure out, it's along the D Minor Pentatonic scale.  I prefer to play it in the fifth position than the tenth.  O0

                             G                              F   G
Django, have you always been alone?
Django, have you never loved again?
               Bb                      F
You must live on, woahhhoh
               Bb            A
Life must go on for all
F                                         G           A          F G A
For you cannot spend your life regretting

                             G                         F   G
Django, you must face another day
Django, now your love has gone away
                Bb                         F
Once you loved her, woahhhoh
                   Bb                       A
Now you've lost her, woahhhoh
                  F            G   A    Dm
But you've lost her forever, Django

When there are clouds in the sky
And they are grey
You may be sad, but remember
F                           G  A
They'll often pass away
Dm               Bb                          C              A       
For, Django..   after the showers, the sun
G     A      Dm
Will be shining
Django! Ohhhh, Django!

You must go on! Ohhh, Django!

I also tabbed out Day of Anger theme song.  Unfortunately, you can barely read the part that shows the rhythm figures, just try to squint really hard.

The intro may sound funny if you play it slow, but trust me, I put the CD in my Tascam and slowed it down reeeaaaally slow, and I'm positive this is what it is.

The melody changes a little the last time they play it, but it's just a minor variation.  It's easy to figure out.

Also, don't mistake the two ones right next to each other in the intro for an eleven.

Some of my eights look like nines, I hope you can tell the difference.

I also have the chords to the theme from "Those Dirty Dogs," and the chords from the theme to "One Silver Dollar."  And if anybody is interested I could tab out that cool guitar piece in A Stranger in Town. 

Now, Eric, you said you had tabs. CONTRIBUTE!

Off-Topic Discussion / The Blues
« on: March 06, 2007, 10:19:26 PM »
Any fans, man? I love me some John Lee Hooker. His guitar sound is so stripped down and raw, and the way he chants over it, it's just astounding.  The very first recording he made, "Boogie Chillen" has got to be one of (if not, THE) best i've ever heard. Honestly, it's like one guy channeling everything the blues is about into one song.  The fact that it's just him, his guitar, and his tapping foot keeping the beat makes it even better. I Also like the Chicago Blues, like Buddy Guy and Muddy Waters.  B.B. King deserves a shoutout (of course).  And also, Blind Willie Johnson has got to be the best "slide" guitar player I've heard, and those 32 or whatever recordings that Robert Johnson did... wow. Just wow.

Any other takers?

Off-Topic Discussion / Greatest Film Titles
« on: March 02, 2007, 12:38:53 PM »
Whar are the film titles that roll off your tongue, are catchy, fun to say, but also jump out at you and kick you in the groin hard enough so that you think "Wow. I need to see this movie."

Some of my favorites:

Apocalypse Now
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Under the Flag of the Rising Sun
2001: A Space Odyssey
Any of the five "official" Sartana movies (ordered one yesterday)

I thought of this topic while I was watching "Bring Me The Head..." and then "Under the Flag..." the next week.

Off-Topic Discussion / Favorite Non-Western Revenge Movies?
« on: February 25, 2007, 05:00:23 PM »
The first one that pops into my head is "The Bad Sleep Well."

I'll think of some more later.

Never seen Death Wish.

Also, i'd like to give a shoutout to my new favorite non-Western showdown.


**spoilers for Drunken Angel**

It is truly just fine fine filmmaking, and i love it to death, when Matsunaga and Okada face off in his room, intercut with the Doc buying eggs for Matsunaga. When Matsunaga starts coughing up blood and Okada gets the knife... so heartbreaking. This whole movie is awesome, and my new favorite Kurosawa noir. Probably on my top 5 Kurosawa. And this scene is just..... sublime.

« on: February 04, 2007, 10:44:54 AM »
I had a sweet picture of you making out with Arizona Colt while Peacemaker watched.... but it didn't work on ImageShack.  :'(

Off-Topic Discussion / Let's help out this poor person.
« on: February 01, 2007, 08:49:38 PM »
Let's help out this poor chick on IMDb. Sounds like an obscure spaghetti western to me... the kind that someone like Titoli or Banjo might know.

I've tried this before - pls help - need title... (unsolved still)   
  by elven_prophecy     (Mon Jan 22 2007 16:17:10 )  Ignore this User | Report Abuse 
UPDATED Wed Jan 31 2007 19:56:43 

I've tried this before a few times with no success - pls read carefully, before rattling off names:

I need your help - I'm talking to the massive western lovers who seen them all - pls this is driving my husband crazy and he's drivng me crazy :)

I'm looking for a western made perhaps in 70s-80s - hell could even be 60s - we'll open the channels a bit more. here's the basic plot of the movie - now before you read - I'll tell which movie it isn't because we've watched, bought or rented them and none fit description. Altough thx for the guesses they were still good movies..

Once upon a time in the west
Nevada Smith
Jeremiah West
and close...but NOT:
Man to Man AKA Death rides a horse

Now here's the plot...

The movie is about a boy who witnesses his family getting killed by bandits. And he swears vengeance. Boy grows up and gets taught by old Indian or Mexican about shooting and stuff. When he gets older, he plays harmonica and when bandits hear it they get scared because they know he's coming. Now this guy has a pair of sawed off shotguns that he uses as pistols - the butt and the barrel are sawed off to make shot gun the size of pistol and he's a mean guy, kills alot of bandits.

Don't know who plays in this - but hubby guessed(not sure but thinks) Lee Van Cleef or someone who looks like him...if someone out there has seen all the Lee Van Cleef movies pls come forward and confirm if this sounds like a Lee Van Cleef movie or if bogus and someone else plays in it.

Pls!! I am begging for help! I've been trying to find this movie for ages! Help me western fans! I am BEGGING :)

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