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Trivia Games / Re:The Quote Game
« on: June 06, 2003, 11:20:53 PM »
angel eyes & the hunchback ?

What I ment to say is Mortirmer to the hunchback in FFDM...

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Angel Eye's & his Remington
« on: June 06, 2003, 10:01:11 PM »
You are correct once again Joe...  

What the soldiers found out during preparation for battle in the Civil War was, through someone‚Äôs ingenious idea, that if they were to take a pre-loaded cylinder, dip the very tip of the copper cap end into hot candle wax, then pouring a tiny amount down the front end of each cylinder hole,  let the wax cool thus preventing moisture of any kind from getting in there and fouling up the works, that they could fire their weapons during a hurricane if necessary.  (Talk about a run-on sentence. ::) )

It would be prudent to load several cylinders in this manner if your life depended on it.  

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Trivia Games / Re:a stranded tucco
« on: June 06, 2003, 07:20:28 PM »
Let me count:

1st time stranded:  When the henchmen shoot his horse then Blondy shoots the henchmen...  Blondy takes him in for the bounty....Makes his way back to town straped down on the back of Blondys horse.  "
Yeah, and you don't look like the one who will collect it...  A couple of steps back..."
 

2nd time stranded:  When Blondy simply leaves him out in the dessert....  Makes his way back to town by walking, half dead...  "The way back to town is only seventy miles, if you save your breath, I feel a man like you can make it..."

3rd time stranded:  When he jumps off the train with the big brute and kills him by smashing his head against the rocks.  Makes his way back to town by hopping on the caboose of the passing train that cuts him free of the big brute...  "I told you once my friend if I ever get you down..."

4th time stranded:  When blondy strings him up at the end then shoots him down from long distance...Unknown if he made it back to town, End of movie...  Blondy, you know what you are, your a Son of a ! WHAAA EE  WHAAA EE WHAAA -  Wha----Wha----Wha.... ;D

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Angel Eye's & his Remington
« on: June 06, 2003, 05:19:22 PM »
Sure did Joe!  

As you can see in this picture of Blondys .36cal 1851 Navy Colt Richards Mason Conversion the loading lever is still intact but no ejector rod is present and  the cylinder has been modified to fire metallic cartriges:


As you know when loading a Cap and Ball cylinder you had to pack the load down into the cylinder from the front by operating the loading lever.  When the cylinder was bore though you could use the loading lever as a make shift ejector rod.  There was a slight tolerance between the back of the cylinder seat and the cylinder itself. It was very tiny so one required long finernails to extract the spent shell casing barley protruding from the cylinder by using the loading lever reversely.  (Gunmen of the time were know to have long fingernails to get down and dirty.)  However there was a much faster way...

Durning the time of the Civil War Flintlocks and thier parts were still in use all over the country and being sold, sparcely however as they began to fade out,  along with the "new" percussion revolvers...

Flintlocks had no loading lever and it was nesessary to load them down the front of the muzzle with what was called a Ram Rod, or Pistol Loading Rod.  

The Colt Paterson model '36 was also still around and in great use.  This pistol had no loading lever either so a Pistol Loading Rod was needed to pack the cylinder...
Patersons did not have the soon to be modern design of an attached loading lever. Without an attached loading lever a shooter would be required to load powder and ball, and then use a ramrod to push the ball firmly onto the powder. This had many disadvantages, not the least of which, it required a lot of strength to force a ball into its chamber, losing the ramrod would be even worse. However, later models of the Paterson had an attached loading lever. This lever was used to force the ball into its chamber, being always attached to the gun; the lever greatly improved the Patersons functionality. The vast majority of all modern revolvers would have this attached loading rod.


When the conversion was made to bore through cylinders with percussion revolvers they simply bought a loading rod for a Flintlock pistol (which were dirt cheap as the flintlock faded out) or a loading rod for a Paterson and carried it with them and used as an ejector rod.  As seen below:




A Pistol loading rod -cira 1805

It was a matter of opening the loading gate and taking your rod and manually pushing the spent cartridge out thought the cylinder hole...

The great thing about conversions that still had the loading lever intact is that is was simple to swap out the cashed cylinder for a pre-loaded one ready to go...  So some of the gunslingers of the time infact carried serveral pre-loaded clyinders.  Pre-cursor to todays speedloaders... 8)

If you could not afford to buy a loading rod, you simply used whatever you could to eject the spent cartridges.  A piece of steel, a stick, your long fingernails or whatever....

Someone told me they could also use thier cleaning rods too, but it doesn't have the fancy Palm Saver that the Loading Rod has...

So, infact, the Pistol loading rods became Pistol Unloading rods... ;)

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Any John Carpenter Flick prior to and including Big Trouble in Little China Town

I love Assault on Precinct 13, Halloween, The Fog, Escape From New York, The Thing....My favorite John Carpenter movie is Assault on Precinct 13.  Napolan Wilson rocks.  Pre-cursor to Snake Pliskin....  Carpenter is a hugh Western fan and the whole movie is based upon Rio Bravo...  It's awesome...

http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter.com/data/movies/sounds/apscnapo.wav

Our hero finally gets his reward... 8)

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Angel Eye's & his Remington
« on: June 06, 2003, 04:09:13 PM »
That is very true Joe, you can see the "copper" caps in the revolver as well as metallic cartridges in his gun loops as well.  During my research for "Eastwood Guns" over on the other board I found out that the Remmingtons (New Army '58) were the formost guns to be converted to bore though cylinders.  The cool thing is that in these eary conversion models, you could change out the Cap and Ball cylinder with the bore thourgh cylinder at the drop of a dime and vice versa....

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Trivia Games / Re:The Quote Game
« on: June 06, 2003, 04:03:30 PM »
I generally smoke just after i eat why don'y you come back in about ten minutes

That'll be Angel Eyes to the Hunchback in FFDM

Next one:

"In ten minutes you'll be smoking in hell...."

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Other Films / Re:Hombre (1966)
« on: May 30, 2003, 06:44:43 PM »
I love this flick!!!! ;D  As you can tell by my quote. 8)

You guys notice how fast Newman is drawing that gun in the end.  I mean, that was fast fast fast... and in real time to...

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:coolest line clint delievers
« on: May 30, 2003, 05:32:21 PM »
Here are a few of my favorites:

A couple of steps back....  The very first dialog Clint has in the movie talking to the henchmen that apprehend Tuco....

"Well, after a meal, there is nothing like a good cigar..."  
To Tuco after leaving the church.

"Otherwise known as the Rat...
Blondie to himself after the justice of the peace describes all of Tucos crimes and aliases."

"Yeah, but I do the cutting.  Cutting back my percentage is lible to affect my aim..."
To Tuco after explaining to him about there arrangements...

"Such ingraditute after all the times I've saved your life..."


"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk..."
Tuco after shooting the baddie while takeing a bath...

Not Eastwood, but I had to throw that one in there...


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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Thing (1982)
« on: April 23, 2003, 04:57:48 PM »


1. Humanity (Part I) (6:50)
2. Shape (3:15)
3. Contamination (1:02)
4. Bestiality (2:56)
5. Solitude (5:58)
6. Eternity (5:35)
7. Wait (6:22)
8. Humanity (Part II) (7:15)
9. Sterilization (5:12)
10. Despair (4:58)
 
 
  Music Composed and Conducted by Ennio Morricone
Album Produced by Ennio Morricone
 
       

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Thing (1982)
« on: April 23, 2003, 04:40:50 PM »
You guys are kidding right?  The Thing is on my Top Ten (Well lets say top 20)  list of movies of all time...

http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter.com/data/movies/sounds/thscwier.wav




John Carpenter is a HUGH Western Fan.  Infact alot of his infuluences are from Howard Hawks, John Ford, Sergio Leone.  Being a Leone fan one can't help to be an Morricone fan.  He asked Morricone to do the soundtrack and Morricone, in essence, "borrowed" Carpenters Sound....  The critics SLAMED Morricone at the time.   In fact he won a razzie (razzy) award that year for years worst soundtrack...  I watch it each time(about four time a year) and Love that Theme.  Infact I downloaded off of Napster some years ago...


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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Another question on Tuco's gun
« on: April 23, 2003, 04:16:28 PM »
Ahhhhhh!!!!  Your right Joe, I was to busy looking at the scene in Slow Motion to notice what kind of gun it is he takes off of big brute,  that he does infact try and fire the gun and can't...

My only guess would be off a dead army guy or something?  Is the first time we see him after the train scene in the shelled out town taking a bath?  

We never see him give up the Custom made Badass Gun.  He could have thrown it out in the sand real quick before the Union guys noticed it and went back for it...(Just kidding) ;)

-BTW You've really got me looking for those damb cap nipples all the time now (no pun intended)... 8)

Now I'm going to have to throw the DVD in again and watch it for everytime Tuco's wielding a gun... ::) :P 8)

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:Another question on Tuco's gun
« on: April 22, 2003, 09:56:20 PM »
I agree with cigar joe.  It's more than likely his style that Blondy "hears".

My take one it is that Tuco has Three revolvers in the film.

1.1858 Remington:  Crashing though the window in the beginning of the film with turky leg in other hand.  Blondy never gives it back to him...

2. Custom made Badass Gun the Navy colt trigger, Smith and Wesson cylinder, and a Ferrote barrel that he puts together at the store.  More than likely confiscated by the Union...

3. 1851 Colt Conversion What he takes off of the big brute after jumping off the train and uses this the rest of the movie.  Droped by Blondy by Arch Stantons grave right after mumbling "You see there are two kinds of people in this world my friend.  Those with loaded guns and those who dig.  You dig!"  More than likely retrived by Tuco after Blondy shoots him down...

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A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Clint Versus Ramon at the end
« on: April 21, 2003, 07:42:51 AM »

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I'm sure that Angel Eyes was his hired gun nick name.  I'm sure his parents didn't name him that...  The Union Army would need a birth name for you to enroll.  Sargent Angel Eyes just would have never had worked...

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