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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Everyone knows about the car, right?
« on: February 01, 2012, 07:57:12 PM »
Supposedly, there is another car, or motor vehicle of some sort, to the RIGHT of Tuco when he is balancing himself on the cross. It is moving right to left.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Cutting down the film
« on: February 01, 2012, 07:55:02 PM »
IMDB, but I just read on another thread that it may be a typo.

Once Upon A Time In America / Silent?
« on: January 30, 2012, 09:08:00 PM »
Was Once Upon a Time In America also filmed silent with the voices and sound effects post-dubbed?

Once Upon A Time In America / Re: This film could have been 6 hours long
« on: January 30, 2012, 09:03:54 PM »
Supposedly, it had more than 10 hours of film shot!

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Cutting down the film
« on: January 30, 2012, 08:55:48 PM »
Alright, from what I have read on this board and elsewhere, I have put together a summary of how the film was chopped down all the way to its international release. All comments and corrections are welcome.

The original film upon completion ran around 186 minutes. The Socorro scene was cut, and the extended torture scene was trimmed due to a damaged negative, resulting in 179 minute running time. The film was dubbed into Italian, and shown at the premiere. Due to pacing reasons, Leone cut the Grotto scene out for a 176 minute version for Italian theaters. In 1967, 14 ADDITIONAL minutes were cut, resulting in the standard 162-minute version for the U.S. Eastwood, Wallach, and Van Cleef all dubbed their voices at this time. The 14 minutes of deleted scenes, (still in the Italian language), were used as extras on the 1998 DVD release. Finally, in 2003, the 14 minutes were restored and re-dubbed into English, as well as the 3-minute Grotto scene, resulting in the 179-minute Extended Version.


The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: The original overdubbing
« on: January 30, 2012, 08:47:05 PM »
Watching bits of GBU last night reminded me of a question that I have always wanted to ask you guys. Again I suppose my question applies to all films but I am going to use an example from GBU.
What were the techniques for overdubbing back in those days? I can only guess that the likes of Clint, Eli and Lee had to go into a studio, stand in a sound booth and give the lines as they came up whilst watching the film on a projector screen.
Assuming that this was the case what about all the other sounds that were picked up on set? Take the scene when Angel Eyes pours Tuco a little more rum and then pats him on the back in the prison hut whilst talking about playing a little music for his digestion. I can only imagine that back in those days they didn't have closed mikes that could pick up only what the actor nearest to them said. If this had been the case then I suppose that the actors voice track would be on 1 track on the mixing desk and they could easily overdub them. So when the actors went back into the studio to overdub their voices surely all other sounds would need to be added to - the pouring of the rum, the pat on the back, the striking of the match, the footsteps etc.
This would be absurd though surely so again could one of you guys fill me in with what the process was, I'm baffled

All footage in this film, and all other Italian films, was silent, and all sound was dubbed is post-synchronization. Does anyone know why this was standard Italian practice, and when it ended?

How long was this scene?

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Everyone knows about the car, right?
« on: January 07, 2012, 10:45:55 PM »
Can someone upload the car scene and show it here?

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / 186 Minutes?
« on: January 07, 2012, 10:31:57 PM » has the French version of this film being 186 minutes!  Why is this? This cannot include the Grotto scene, since that never made the final cut.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Socorro Sequence
« on: January 07, 2012, 10:23:00 PM »
How long was this scene?

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