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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Little Caesar (1931)
« on: December 03, 2018, 07:44:10 AM »
Finally got around to watching this.  This film has to be taken in context. If I was still new to classic noirs/gangster films I most likely would have destroyed it in my review. Now that I have a better grip on these films I have learned to put them more in context.  Due to that I'm gonna give the film two ratings.

First. As a straight up production I felt the film was seriously lacking.  The film played like a stage play with shaky acting with the exception of Edward G. Robinson.  Key scenes were rushed and one of the main ones shown as a almost incoherent montage.  This contributed to the stage play atmosphere along with the obvious sound stage settings. As a production I thus rank this as a 4 out of 10.

Now, putting this film in context, this is a BRILLIANT film.  As one of the FIRST gangster films you have to start there with how you really view it.  There is soo much history here I don't know where to begin.  Let me say that as I watched the film it was like watching the origins of key scenes in gangster films that are being made today.  I lost count of the references that the 1980s version of Scarface took from this film.  I don't think there is not one gangster film that can't homage to the key elements of Little Caesar.  With the exception of the ending the De Palma version of Scarface is almost scene for scene taken from Little Caesar.
Due to the historical significance of the film and the important key elements established here I rank it as a 9 out of 10 for CONTEXTUAL elements.  This gives the film as final ranking of 6.5 if you wanna meet in the middle.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Blue Gardenia (1953)
« on: November 25, 2018, 07:44:38 PM »
Ehhh.  The film started good then started going downhill after Prebble took her home.  The plot was weak up until the end.  Just too much contrived unbelievable stuff with the plot.  I rank this one a 5.5 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / The Criterion Channel replaces Filmstruck
« on: November 17, 2018, 07:47:40 AM »
I just found out that Filmstruck has been discontinued by Turner and Criterion is gonna fill the void with their own streaming channel after a petition against Turner's decision was launched.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
« on: November 12, 2018, 05:06:54 AM »
One thing about the note in that assistant's pocket.....the guy was dumped in the river. Wouldn't the note have gotten all wet and therefore be unreadable?
Then where did  they  find it?

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 11, 2018, 06:44:56 PM »
Le Trou (1960)  A very good film.  Based on a true event and with 4 of the real characters involved in the film.   I rate this one a 10 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
« on: November 07, 2018, 11:22:21 AM »
Emmerich wanted to double cross them so he could have all the money for himself.

Doc's arrest was a bit odd. It's almost like he WANTED to get arrested. I think he knew that he wasn't going to get very far, so he decided to enjoy himself a bit before getting hauled away. He liked young ladies and it pleased him to be able to give that young lady some money for the jukebox.

Not sure what else Emmerich really could have done with the body. He didn't have many options.

I received my Criterion DVD copy this week.  Its just FLAWLESS.  The film just pops here.  My second viewing cleared up the things I was wondering about above. I don't believe Doc wanted to be arrested.  I just think he got caught up in the moment of watching the dancing.  It was the one weakness he had like you said, women.  As far as Emmerich's decision to dump the body.  It wasn't that act in itself that got him caught, it was the note inside the guy's pocket linking Emmerich to him.

On another note. Now that I have seen Rififi I can compare the two.  I really hate to because it almost blasphamous, lol but I will.  Rififi and the Asphalt Jungle are very similar in plot.  I feel that Rififi takes every element of The Asphalt Jungle and just does it waaay better.  Now there is nothing wrong with the latter because I did rate it a 9.5, its just that Rififi just does everything soo much better.  The character development, the story, everything about Rififi takes what the Asphalt Jungle did but took it to a higher level.  Its a much more raw and gritty film also which I find in all the French and Italian gangster/noir films I have screened.

In the Asphalt Jungle the only character that really had a lot of development in my opinion was Emmerich.  I think this was because his character was central to the whole heist coming apart.  Doc's character was good but most of his development was based on reputation.  You got to SEE Emmerich and his sliminess in action.  The same with Dix.  His background was more developed than Doc but you still had to base a lot of it off reputation.

I can't think of one film without the other because they are similar and are both great films.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Classe Tous Risque (The Big Risk) (1959)
« on: November 06, 2018, 04:54:57 PM »
 This is a REALLY good film.  Now considered a masterpiece it influenced the work of French directors Melville and others. The DVD copy I have from Criterion is just perfect.  The cinemtography is gorgeous and you get plenty of on location filming of Nice, Milano and Paris and points in between.  That along makes this a must have for cinemaphiles.  I rank this one a 10 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Video Game...
« on: November 05, 2018, 09:45:01 AM »
I just discovered the Louisiana-like part of the map. CJ would absolutely love this game and the amount of details in the environment: the bayou looks like an actual bayou, with just the right trees and animals, who react exactly like bayou animals do. Almost every random character there speaks French. The city (called Saint Denis) looks exactly like what you would expect 19th century New Orleans to look like.

The point is: everything is exactly like that. Every corner of the map feels real. The railway construction site is truer than life. As is the abandoned indian reservation or the redneck village. Every single guy you encounter (and I mean every single one, not just the ones that lead to some kind of quest... although the incredibly high number of these scripted side quests is astonishing too) feels real: you can discuss with everybody, they all have their own character. The vegetation and the numerous animal species (I've heard there are 200 of different species, a figure that sounds right to me, there must be a couple of dozen of different kind of horses, for a start) always feel exactly right for each different landscape. As do the people who are around, or the way law enforcement look and act. The different costumes and the dozens of way you can customize every gun you can find both look great and mostly serve a purpose: you better change your outfit after you rob a store, even though you were careful enough to wear a mask during the robbery... but you should also wear a winter coat in the snow, and lose it when you go south. You need to treat your horse like a real horse, which includes reassuring it when he's afraid of gunfire, wolves or snakes. You'll be better off using your lantern when riding at night in the woods, but people and animals will spot you from far away. People react in a different way when you have empty hands or if you're holding a rifle (even in a non threatening way), if you're clean or dirty. When you successfully hunt a dear and carry it o your horse, you'll get blood on your shirt: you better take a bath in a hotel or just go for a swim to see the blood go away in the water so people will not be afraid when you're around. You also need to clean up your weapons, and buy more protective holsters to slow down the way they get dirty. And don't get me started on the crafting system. There are so many ways to randomly attack a train and to isolate it from law enforcement. Horses balls shrink in the cold. I could go on and on, it just never stops and I discover new stuff and new "systems" every time I play.

You are way ahead of me.  I'm still in chapter 2.   I'm about to start a mission where Arthur and Micah go rob a stagecoach.  On my way there I went off the trail to try and see if I could get to him faster. I was going thru some woods and I distinctly thought I heard a tree or something fall to the ground. I looked to my right and sure enough I was on the edge of a logging camp.  lol   The immersion in this game is off the charts...

I can't wait to get to the missions where you are.  I got to open this map up because I want to visit the areas that were in the first game in New Austin.   I got a ways to go first...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Video Game...
« on: November 02, 2018, 09:33:25 AM »
I have played a few hours, and while I'm (a tad) disappointed by the way the story is told (we were sold some kind of revolution on that side, but the actual game often feels like it's from the pre-Uncharted/Last of us era), the open world, it's immersion, the charisma of the characters, the sound design.................. are absolutely incredible. If I still was in my university years I would literally spend my days in it. In many ways, this game feels like the perfect game I've been dreaming about for almost 20 years (the open world from GTA 2, the cinematic immersion from Max Payne and the roleplaying from Baldur's Gate).

Good post.  Me personally, I don't play video games for the single player story.  I play the online multiplayers.  I've done it in the past but I don't have the patience anymore for logging thru the storylines.  I raged quit several times already in RD2, lol.  I've got to play it though because Red Dead Online isn't available yet and I MIGHT have to complete the storyline in order to open up the whole map. 

That being said,  since I don't usually play the  storylines I really can't find any fault in that portion so far.  As far as the immersion I can honestly say I don't think a game has ever approached this.  That IS revolutionary.   The open world itself cannot be beat.  Rockstar delivered on that end.  The immersion is soo good that I just did a mission where we robbed passengers on a train.  The sheriff showed up with deputies and the game itself didn't give us any indication on which way to flee after the initial shoot out at the train.  I just RANDOMLY picked a direction to flee with my gang and it was the WILDEST chase and shoot out that I've ever seen in any art form.  I was just guns blazing going in random directions with my gang following me and we went a LOOONG way thru fields, woods, creeks, etc. before the posse broke off and left us alone.   I've never experienced anything like that.   The way the game just seamlessly runs you into missions cannot be beat. No cut scenes to get you there either.

I can't wait to see how the online game is played.  It should be just as wild as the first game but even more.   The ONLY drawback to the game is the game controls itself. I can see why Rockstar is basing missions on learning how to work the controls.  Its pretty involved.  I've been knocked down plenty of times just trying to remember HOW to get to my   The same with taking cover and stopping my horse.  There have been numerous times where I tried to stop my horse only to take out my pistol and shoot somedody.   I've gotten better with that though...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:28:33 AM »
Plein Soleil (1960)  This film snuck up on me.  For about the first 30 minutes or so I didn't particularly like the script.  The relationship between the two leads, Alain Delon and Maurice Ronet seemed kinda weird.  After viewing the whole film the first part fit.  This took me by surprise.  Tom Ripley ( Alain Delon ) is sent to Italy by the father of playboy Phillip Greenleaf ( Maurice Ronet) with instructions to bring him back to the United States.  You guys know the rest.  Excellent performances by all the lead characters and a script that took off and surprised you.  I haven't seen the remake with Matt Damon but I feel that this was a project that Leonardo Capricio should've done if anybody.  I rank this one a 9 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:14:54 AM »
Touchez Pas au Grisbi (1954)  A VERY good gangster film from Jacques Becker.  Jean Gabin is in the lead.  Lino Ventura makes a appearance. I was pleasantly surprised at how the director nailed the American Gangster films.  Again, the French RAWNESS and GRITTINESS makes this a step above what you normally see in the American Genres of the same.  The moral codes of honor touched about are just nailed in the performance of Gabin.  This is a solid 9 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:10:34 AM »
Un Flic (1972)  Most people consider this the weakest of the Melville gangster/heist films and they are correct.  Its a damn good film.  Two things hold it back. First is the horrible helicopter scenes.   Very against the attention to detail that Melville is known for.  Second is the love triangle in the film.  It was VERY contrived because none of the characters had been developed enough for us to care for any of them in that regard.  Other than that Melville put together a pretty solid film. I rank this 7 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:05:55 AM »
Naked City (1948)  Dassin created a beautiful picture of New York City with this but it was backed by a horrible script.  This puts it right in the middle of a 5 out of 10.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:04:23 AM »
Sicilian Clan (1969)  Everybody is here.  Jean Gabin. Lino Ventura. Alain Delon, Enrico Morricone.  A SOLID ensemble of some of the best of French Noir/Gangster films.  I was pleasantly surprised by this.  Most times when a allstar cast is put together the resulting project is a wreck.  Not in this one.  Outside of a weak scene involving the plane landing this was a solid picture through out.  I rank it 8.5 out of 10...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 Video Game...
« on: November 01, 2018, 08:00:26 AM »
This game has EXCEEDED expectations.  I honestly feel that you don't even have to be someone who plays video games to enjoy THIS game if you love western movies.   Everything is here. You REALLY feel like you are one of your favorite characters from one of your favorite western movies.... I rank this 10 out of 10.

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