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General Discussion / Re:Women don't like Leone, or Westerns?
« on: August 07, 2004, 03:10:09 AM »
I don't know much girls who like Leone's films.  My girlfriend only saw FFDM and pieces of OUTIW (soon I will oblige her to see all).  She liked FFDM, mostly for Clint Eastwood, declaring that he's sexier than me (my girlfriend declared that, not Clint Eastwood).  Can you believe it.
Probably his films are real male films.  I always have the feeling that a film like GBU is a film for REAL MAN, played by REAL MAN, no sissies, but real tough blokes.  No Meg Ryan, no Disneyesque morality, no American censors, just this film(s) made of one piece.  It brings back those good ol' days, when feminism was far far away and men ruled the world.  ;)

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Kubrick
« on: July 28, 2004, 08:04:55 AM »
Although pretty critisized, I found Eyes Wide Shut one hell of a movie!  I feel it's not only a film about adultery, it IS adultery.  It's such a powerful movie, and definitely one of my Kubrick favourites.  

2001: A Space Odyssey is probably the best science fiction film ever... Kubrick has something others don't, man.  He was as big a genius as Leone was, I think (although I slightly prefer Leone).  The level of perfection, the strange feeling he conveys in his movies, it's unseen.  Too bad he deceased, who knows what he would have made nowadays.  Plus he never got the chance to do any western. ;)

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That's funny, hadn't read your post, I just posted something in the Off topic section about great opening sequences and I remember it having one of the greatest opening sequences I remember...
But I find the film itself a bit too weak, Fonda's wimpiness was getting on my nerves, I think it takes too long before he gets into action.  But nevertheless worth a watch.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Best Opening Sequence ever?
« on: July 25, 2004, 06:39:28 AM »
Opening a movie interestingly is very important thing, sometimes it can make the movie...  Which are your favourites?

These are some of mine:

- The opening of OUTIW of course, must be the longest and perhaps the most interesting ever...
That one from GBU isn't too bad either.

- The opening of 'Apocalypse Now': A long shot of a forest/jungle, helicopter passing by, dust and napalm clouds, in the meanwhile 'The End' from the Doors coming up... and than BAM the whole thing explodes while Jim Morrison sings the first words 'This is the end...'  Sheer poetry.  What follows is also a very nice piece of filmmaking with lots of cross dissolves, you know what I mean.

-The opening from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' which is almost the summary of Indiana Jones trilogy.  

-Another one that sticks to my mind is of a film called 'Welcome to hard times' with Henry Fonda.  Not a very good film, but it has a very nice opening.

There are many I can't think of, but I'm curious to hear other peoples' choices.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re:DVD-collections and wishes
« on: July 22, 2004, 03:12:10 AM »
My wish list (of fictive dvds):

A special Edition of Blade Runner would be nice, with both the cuts on it.

A special Edition of Apocalypse Now, with the original version and the redux on it.  Personally I didn't really care for the extra scenes added to the redux.  It was a great movie as it was.

Kill Bill-the complete film

Top 3 in random order:
The Great Escape (though lousy extras)
The Godfather Trilogy
Back to the Future Trilogy

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Once Upon A Time In America / Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
« on: July 17, 2004, 03:21:44 AM »
I really like how the transition to the past is done in the beginning, with the phone-ringing, especially at the end, when de Niro picks up the phone, but the phone keeps ringing and it's not until the police (or something) picks up that it stops.  It's arty stuff.

Best part in the film is when Noodles' gang runs from the other gang (the name escapes me) and a slow motion sets in accompanied with the panflute theme.  Goosebumps all over the place.

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General Discussion / Re:Showdown themes
« on: July 17, 2004, 02:46:36 AM »
I think '60 seconds to what...?' is by far the coolest, but I had to go for OUTIW, because it goes deep down TO THE BONE and gives me goosebumps.

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General Discussion / Re:Meeting Leone.
« on: July 17, 2004, 02:42:04 AM »
Belkin, one word: wow.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Particular Song Used In Kill Bill Vol2
« on: July 08, 2004, 02:30:28 AM »
This scene looked a bit like a wink to High Plains Drifter, don't you think?

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General Discussion / Re:Favourite Hero
« on: July 08, 2004, 02:24:05 AM »
Eastwood for president.  I even thought up a coolness-scale calling it 'the scale of eastwood'  ;D

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Duck, You Sucker / Re:Thoughts on this film
« on: July 08, 2004, 02:21:23 AM »
I recently saw this film again and I really enjoyed it.  There are very moving, strong scenes in it.  Only I found it difficult to see the whole picture, because (I have to admit) I'm not really familiar with the background and history of this revolution.  I could understand everything, but could anyone sketch some more detailed background on this?  I'm very interested in history but also very bad in it (if I only paid more attention in class)... :-[

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Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:Prequel to Dollars trilogy?
« on: July 08, 2004, 01:56:51 AM »
I must agree with grandpa chum, this is fun and all, but isn't this all a bit far-fetched?  Unforgiven is a revisionist western, I feel Eastwood is saying farewell to the genre, you could actually compare him with Will Munny who quits and does a last job.
If we start linking his films to one another, than you could say after GBU the man with no name became a sheriff, got hung up in Hang 'em High, got whipped in High Plains Drifter, saw sheriffing wasn't his thing and became a farmer in The Outlaw Josey Wales and staying one in Unforgiven, being granddad of 7 children, one of them named Kelly, being great granddad of a guy named Harry, which was a policeman but started a career as Space Cowboy.  Like great grandfather, like great grandson.

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:I can watch GBU over & over...
« on: July 08, 2004, 01:37:40 AM »
Well, I must admit, the second last time I saw GBU I was not so impressed, 'cause I had seen it lots of times.  But the last time I saw it, I paid more attention to the mechanics of the film, and it all works like a well-oiled machine and I could really enjoy it again, and I understood things I didn't before.  That's the beautiful thing about Leone's movies, that u always discover something new.
Last time I was struck about how sensitive the scene between Tuco and his brother was.  Before this scene, GBU is all big kids' fun, and this scene makes everything before it more three-dimensional, and the film is full of these little moments which trigger an emotional reaction and make GBU actually a very rich and layered film and not just a cowboy movie.  

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Other Films / Re: The Outrage (1964)
« on: July 08, 2004, 01:26:15 AM »
Thanks for clearing that up, smoker. 8)

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Other Films / The Outrage (1964)
« on: July 05, 2004, 11:48:24 AM »
I don't know if I mentioned the film before on the board.  Has anyone seen it?  It's a pretty violent, dark but also funny western made in 1964 starring Paul Newman as a Mexican bandit (!)  
I was just wondering if anyone knew if the director was influenced by Leone's Fistful of Dollars, which came out the same year of course.  If not, it might point to the fact Hollywood was also looking for different ways to tell western stories.

Though not a very good film, it has its moments and is worth a watch for Newman's performance (as a Mexican !).

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