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« #15 : September 22, 2011, 11:34:19 PM »

I just watched the 3-way shootout at Sadhill again. Tuco was emptying his gun at AE/Sentenza. Perhaps Blondie noticed this and therefore split the loot with him?

Thanks for bringing this in. To bring in a touch of math, this is the perfect state of Nash Equilibrium. In this case Tuco is making the best decision that he can, mindful of the decisions of Blondie and Angel Eyes. Here, Tuco having spent enough time with Blondie clearly knows he is a rational thinker and would not renege on the booty-split pact. The only logical way out is to eliminate the latter. Blondie would have similar thoughts, perchance. Blondie evesdropping on the Ramirez brothers' conversation must have revealed the gentle side of Tuco. In any case, when the duo regrouped - it's quite clear the two men have some respect towards each other that even they failed to realize.

The only concern Blondie would have is to take care of Tuco's greed, not Tuco per se.

His noticing Tuco not aiming at him would not have perhaps been a reason for Blondie to split the treasure - he would have anyhow wanted to give him his share, the only assumption would be if he were alive at the end of the truel. And Blondie pretty well knows he won't be the one who would kill him.

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« #16 : September 22, 2011, 11:46:36 PM »

On a lighter note as to why Blondie wants to split the money: After Blondie shoots Tuco's rope for the second time and they flee 70 miles into the desert, he says ".... 'cause I don't think you'll ever be worth more than $3000" - which seems to suggest Blondie has some heuristic measure of financial planning. Perhaps he thinks his share of $ 100,000 would be more than enough for him to lead a good life, unless he is obscenely prodigal. And carrying all $ 200,000 during the Civil War is too much of a risk.   ;)

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« #17 : September 29, 2011, 10:54:01 AM »


Hello,
Maybe I can coin in an idea from a bit different point of view. In my opinion, the dramaturgy of the film is that Tuco and Blondie are both not bad boys, still quit different characters. Leone plays with these differences, which are to a good part the content of the film. Tuco belongs in some way to an old world, Blondie to a new. According to the story both have lot of possibilities to die or to kill each other, but the idea of Leone is, to let them survive, although this is often completely unbelievable. To me one mayor content of the film is, that both, the representatives of the old and the new world have they specific role in the world and therefore survive. Look for this idea also to the barkeeper in “Once upon the time in the West” at the beginning, a completely time-outed man, but still lovable, and one of the few not be killed.

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« #18 : September 29, 2011, 01:10:26 PM »

Thanks for bringing this in. To bring in a touch of math, this is the perfect state of Nash Equilibrium. In this case Tuco is making the best decision that he can, mindful of the decisions of Blondie and Angel Eyes. Here, Tuco having spent enough time with Blondie clearly knows he is a rational thinker and would not renege on the booty-split pact. The only logical way out is to eliminate the latter. Blondie would have similar thoughts, perchance. Blondie evesdropping on the Ramirez brothers' conversation must have revealed the gentle side of Tuco. In any case, when the duo regrouped - it's quite clear the two men have some respect towards each other that even they failed to realize.

The only concern Blondie would have is to take care of Tuco's greed, not Tuco per se.
If this were true, Blondie would not have bothered to surreptitiously unload Tuco's gun.

I like that other point, though: having witnessed Tuco dry firing at AE, Blondie may have decided to reward Tuco for his loyalty. I'm not sure that that was an entirely rational decision, however. But Blondie is as susceptible to sentimentality as anyone. He did take the precaution, though, of leaving Tuco with the money but without a horse when making his getaway. Tuco cannot follow immediately, or for that matter, anytime soon. He will have to rehide the money, go for pack animals, and return, thus giving Blondie plenty of time to disappear into the landscape.

After all, Blondie may be content with half the loot, but there is no reason to believe that Tuco would settle for that amount. Tuco is not motivated merely by the utility of gold, but by the ecstacy it--and the quest for it--confers.

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« #19 : October 01, 2011, 11:53:57 AM »

After crossing crossing the river you would have thought Tuco would have tested his pistol to make sure it worked even though he protected it .........Guns and water dont mix ......and being a seasoned gunman would have checked working of gun after crossing.........If he had he would have found it unloaded.

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« #20 : October 01, 2011, 12:03:08 PM »

Hello friends, am new to the forum. Don't know if the question has already been posed, but this is it: After Tuco and Blondie barter their half of the secret, why didn't Tuco kill Blondie afterwards? Going by his goofy nature, he would have believed Blondie must've told him the truth and killed him. There were two main opportunities - while crossing the river and while Blondie was tending to the dying Confederate soldier. This has always perplexed me. ???
Tuco mellows and warms to Blondie as the film progresses.........Thats why towards the end we see Tuco change from cold blooded killer at beginning of film to Likeable clown,unlike Angel Eyes who is pure evil throughout the film........Thats what makes it so entertaining.Tuco is the only one who gives a motive for his actions to his brother........Moral story......not actions of a Psyco killer.

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« #21 : October 13, 2011, 01:06:42 AM »

I agree with DJ.
And was Blondie going to start chasing him on foot? Of course not, lighting a canon ball is far more his style. It clearly only occurred to the Blondie character to do this at the last minute and shows how cool he is. It also helped move the film into the final chapter.

Interesting take on the final shootout too Honest Farmer.
I had never thought about that before. Reading the expressions on the faces there was certainly a lot going on there. Blondie nodding to Tuco and almost smiling is very noticeable and certainly picked up on by Angeleyes. In fact that is when Angeleyes starts bricking it. If you remember back to the very beginning when they are stepping around eachother and Tuco hangs out his gun Angeleyes looks very confident and sure of himself.

I think Blondie knew that Tuco was a rogue but he wasn't evil like Angeleyes and I think Blondie maybe even liked Tuco - maybe I'm confusing the likeable nature of Tuco that we the viewer has, with the character of Blondie, I'm not sure.
I think either way, Blondie wasn't going to let Angeleyes have a cent of that money. It simply wasn't fair the way that he tortured the information out of Tuco - and there was no question that Blondie was going to kill him.

A bit waffly but I hope I have made some sense!

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« #22 : November 06, 2011, 06:20:46 PM »

Blondie did got to Tuco for help in order to dispose of Sentenza's gang. Later at the cemetary he says "Two hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. We're gonna have to earn it" Maybe he was of the opinion Tuco had earned his share?

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« #23 : November 07, 2011, 06:46:25 AM »

Tuco and Blondie would've made sure that their guns did NOT get wet crossing the stream.  They weren't exactly carrying any other stuff with them. 

And for those not out west: streams and rivers in the west are way smaller and way shallower than such back east.  So realistic to be able to simply walk across.  Now, I know, the end is supposed to take place near Arkansas.....according to the nice timeline posted on this site.

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« #24 : November 20, 2011, 10:45:07 AM »

I can only think of what Ford would have said:
''If he would have done that, it would have been the end of the picture!''



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