Mario Brega?

[Skull and Bones]

He's the one who's leaning against a table during the Moe beating scene. If I'm not mistaken he has a cigar, but I'm not too sure.

Those three men(Ahh, three, the perfect number!) are the same guys sitting in the back of the restaurant during the first scene with Joe Pesci.

Who did those 3 men work for was it Joe Pesci?

[Groggy]

I could be wrong, but wasn't he the "Where is he?  Where's he hiding?" guy?

[HEX]

someone put up a picture.

[The Peacemaker]

He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?

[HEX]

thats another actor

[Groggy]

He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?

That would be Burt Young, who gets shot two scenes later.

[The Peacemaker]

Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind. 

[noodles_leone]

Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind. 

Well, is the mistery solved? that's a shame for this board that we cannot pintpoint one of the most important Leone collaborator...

[Groggy]

I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.

[noodles_leone]

I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.

yes i think too... but is somebody sure? (it will deserve an entry in the sergio leone encyclopedia as soon as we'll be sure...)

[mal247]

I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.

Definitely correct.  A few photos below - in 1984 Mario was 60 years old and had lost some weight - that guy Beefy must have been big - usually it was Mario (formerly a butcher) who dwarfed everyone else.

[noodles_leone]

SO i guess their is no mystery anymore... thanks!

[Tucumcari Bound]

Wow, I didn't even realize he was in this.

[cigar joe]

Yes thanks immensely, we sort of thought he was that guy.

[mal247]

This topic has reminded me of some thoughts I had on OUATIA's sound and dialogue.

According to Frayling, some 65% of OUATIA has direct sound and De Niro was keen on the actors being American and having the right accents.  I am not sure if Mario could speak various languages but I wonder if this may partly explain the differences in the dialogue in the book and the film.  In the book Mendy (Mandy) seems to be the boss over his two colleagues Trigger and Muscles (Beefy) and has quite a bit of dialogue.  In the film Beefy has most if not all of the dialogue.

I recently watched 1900 (now that is a long film) followed by Leone's early westerns and it seemed obvious that the actors were speaking their lines in whatever language they were most comfortable with - the French actor was speaking French, the Italians were speaking Italian and the English and Americans English.  Since the films were going to be released worldwide, there were always going to be synchronising problems with dubbing so it didn't really matter.

I may be completely wrong but I thought the general opinion was that French and Italian audiences were more used to dubbing and found it acceptable. The American and English audiences were less used to it and found out of sync dialogue irritating.

There seems to be a conscious decision with OUATIA to accept this view and I am not aware of any out of sync dialogue in the English version.  Also it is possible that some of the unpublished footage is not as raw as we may think.