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« #345 : January 18, 2021, 07:29:38 PM »

PS: 2 GLORREICHE HALUNKEN was Sergio's first title for the film as I recall. (TWO MAGNIFICENT ROGUES). Right?
Shall we consult Frayling? On pages 203-204 of STDWD we read:
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In fact, the film was not originally to be called The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. The title I due magnifici straccioni (The Two Magnificent Tramps) was changed just before shooting began. Vincenzoni dreamed up the new title (literally) and [Leone] loved it.
I like the idea that the title came to Vincenzoni in a dream. This may account for the fact that the title is not merely apt, but iconic, and has had a life of its own apart from the movie.

Btw, Mike, I like "rogues" better than "tramps", I think you're the better translator.

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« #346 : January 19, 2021, 04:28:47 AM »

Hugs to you Jordan, you are the only guy in the world I would have sold it to... (whywere you born? ;D )
Glad to see they finally "accepted" your input, which they did not for their "first release". Maybe
they didn't trust my opinion at that time, although I already had successfully co-produced 3 Peckinpah's
with KINO by then...

PS: 2 GLORREICHE HALUNKEN was Sergio's first title for the film as I recall. (TWO MAGNIFICENT ROGUES). Right?

I'm glad it's going to live on in home video form, hopefully forever! Yes, I really appreciate you sticking up for us (lil brutto and I) during Kino's first attempt. They did eventually reach out although there is a much longer story I'd rather tell you in person :) One day, when this crazy virus is in the past I hope to make it over to Europe and we will have many beers together Mike. All the best to you.


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« #347 : January 19, 2021, 09:00:49 AM »

I'm a technical idiot, but I need to ask: is 4KUHD work with a BluRay player?  May be irrelevant, I'm using a 52-inch HDTV from 2008.

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« #348 : January 19, 2021, 11:33:21 AM »

I'm a technical idiot, but I need to ask: is 4KUHD work with a BluRay player?
Answer: No.



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« #349 : January 19, 2021, 12:33:15 PM »

I'm a technical idiot, but I need to ask: is 4KUHD work with a BluRay player?  May be irrelevant, I'm using a 52-inch HDTV from 2008.

The upcoming release will include a 4K UHD and a bluray of the International/US theatrical cut. Kino dropped the Extended Edition altogether, which I think is a good move.

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« #350 : January 19, 2021, 03:03:34 PM »

The upcoming release will include a 4K UHD and a bluray of the International/US theatrical cut. Kino dropped the Extended Edition altogether, which I think is a good move.

I didn't realise the Extended version was completely dropped.

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« #351 : January 19, 2021, 03:55:35 PM »

I didn't realise the Extended version was completely dropped.
Yeah, I didn't understand that either. Thanks for the clarification.



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« #352 : January 19, 2021, 11:54:24 PM »

 :-\Jim Nice to have HD version of the US/International version.
T the best one imho.
I just hope they don't DNR the thing.
Techniscope is inherently grainy and shouldn't be ' cleaned up'


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« #353 : January 20, 2021, 03:55:54 AM »

Updates specs from facebook

Coming April 27th on 4KUHD!
THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (1967)
? 162-Minute Theatrical Cut - Over 30 hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading and a 4K scan of a 1967 IB tech print as the secondary source to restore the theatrical cut to its original glory.
A) The optical flip ending in Tuco?s neck back around the noose (14 frames)
B) Tuco Shoving the ?open/closed? sign into the storekeeper?s mouth (5 seconds, 10 frames)
C) An extreme closeup of Blondie?s eyes shortly before Tuco?s gang comes barging in through the door (1 second, 14 frames)
D) The fade up to Tuco and Blondie riding up to the mission after Tuco forced Blondie to walk through the desert (1 second, 3 frames)
E) The tail end of the shot of the train station (2 seconds, 1 frame)
? Limited Edition O-Card Slipcase (5000)
? Reversible Art
? Audio Commentary by Film Historian Tim Lucas (Both)
? Deleted Scenes (4KUHD)
? Leone's West: Making of Documentary (Blu-ray)
? Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 1 (Blu-ray)
? Il Maestro: Ennio Morricone and GBU Featurette Part 2 (Blu-ray)
? The Leone Style: On Sergio Leone Featurette (Blu-ray)
? The Man Who Lost the Civil War: Civil War Documentary (Blu-ray)
? Reconstruction GBU (Blu-ray)
? Deleted Scene 1: Extended Tuco Torture scene (Blu-ray)
? Deleted Scene 2: The Socorro Sequence - A Reconstruction (Blu-ray)
? Deleted Scene 3: Skeletons in the Desert (Blu-ray)
? Deleted Scene 4: Extended Torture Scene (Blu-ray)
? Vignette 1: Uno, Due, Tre (Blu-ray)
? Vignette 2: Italian Lunch (Blu-ray)
? Vignette 3: New York Accent (Blu-ray)
? Vignette 4: Gun in Holster (Blu-ray)
? Alternate Scene: The Optical Flip (Blu-ray)
? TRAILERS FROM HELL with Ernest Dickerson (Blu-ray)
? GBU on the Set ? Image Gallery (Blu-ray)
? Promoting GBU ? Image Gallery (Blu-ray)
? Original U.S. Theatrical Trailer (Blu-ray)
? Newly Restored Original German Theatrical Trailer (Blu-ray)
? Original French Theatrical Trailer (Blu-ray)
? GBU ? Radio Spot (Blu-ray)
? A Fistful of Dollars ? Trailer (Blu-ray)
? For a Few Dollars More ? Trailer 1 (Blu-ray)
? For a Few Dollars More ? Trailer 2 (Blu-ray)
? A Fistful of Dollars / For a Few Dollars More ? Burning at Both Ends Trailer (Blu-ray)
? A Fistful of Dollars / For a Few Dollars More ? Burning at Both Ends Radio Spot (Blu-ray)
? English DTS-HD MA 5.1 Surround (Both)
? Newly Restored 2.0 Mono (Both)
? Triple-Layered UHD100 Disc (4KUHD)
? Dual-Layered BD50 Disc (Blu-ray)
? Optional English Subtitles (Both)
Color 162 Minutes 2.35:1 Rated R

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« #354 : January 20, 2021, 04:06:10 AM »

Ok, and next thing they do is to restore the yet unreleased original theatrical Italian version by using your 35mm prints?


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« #355 : February 12, 2021, 02:06:44 PM »

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« #356 : March 30, 2021, 11:07:07 AM »

You guys might enjoy this podcast which goes into some of the contributions we made towards getting the actual international version out on uhd:

http://sadhillmedia.com/filmformally/s3e10-gbu

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« #357 : March 30, 2021, 11:27:49 AM »

The SLWB is mentioned too!


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« #358 : March 30, 2021, 09:19:17 PM »

You guys might enjoy this podcast which goes into some of the contributions we made towards getting the actual international version out on uhd:

http://sadhillmedia.com/filmformally/s3e10-gbu
Fantastic podcast about Jordan's fantastic efforts. I'm really looking forward to the new release.



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« #359 : March 31, 2021, 11:36:10 AM »

Great job! Enjoyed listening. Nice to know the SLWB has had an effect on a disc release!

I disagree about the shorter version being superior. (To be fair, the extended cut is what I saw first and many times before I saw the shirter one). At least some scenes in longer version - if not all - are important. Mainly of course, Angel Eyes at the fort; IMO that is absolutely essential. Also, the Union captain talking about drinking - not essential but a nice little scene.

And the scene with the Union commandant lecturing Angel Eyes to treat the prisoners humanely - I don?t recall if that was in the shorter version (it was definitely leftnout of the even-shorter British version) - again, not essential, but IMO a good scene, with the discussion of war crimes.

Of course, the Grotto scene should not have been in. Fuck John Kirk for that.

Of course, as you say, there are audio issues. Doesn?t the original Italian version still exist in Italian? Why couldn?t MGM take the musical cues from there when they made their own extended cut?


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