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« #390 : May 10, 2021, 11:10:13 AM »

Posters at HTF are reporting an "oily residue" inside the UHD/Blu-ray case which, if it gets on the discs, can interfere with playback.
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/a-few-words-about-tm-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-in-4k-uhd-blu-ray.371814/page-12 (scroll down)
No telling what long-term damage it could do. I checked my copy and there was definitely something there: I think the plastic resin that the case is made of is sweating. I'm moving the discs to another case. The rest of you, take heed.

Can it damage the blu ray player as well?


I was all set to order this; now I will wait a bit, hopefully they will fix this issue.


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« #391 : May 11, 2021, 06:50:11 PM »

The release seems to be selling well.  Over at HTF a poster reprints a message he received from Kino:

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Dear Customer,

We first would like to thank you for your recent order from Kino Lorber. However, we have just learned that the expected stock for THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (4K UHD) will be further delayed. We are now expecting new stock to arrive at our fulfillment center by late May or early June. Unfortunately, this will delay the shipment of your order until we are fully restocked with THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (4K UHD) in early June. We do not ship orders until all items are in stock and we are unable split orders.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience. If you bought THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (4K UHD) expecting to receive it sooner than June, then you may contact us at support@kinolorber.com and we can either remove the item from your order or we can cancel the entire order.

If you are fine waiting to receive your copy of THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (4K UHD), then no further action is required and we will ship when new copies become available.

As a reminder, THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (4K UHD) is no longer sold with a Limited Edition Slipcover.

Best Regards,

Kino Lorber Customer Service

The Limited Edition Slipcover is sold out! Oh no!! Drink, you waited too long!!!



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« #392 : May 24, 2021, 02:35:44 PM »

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Good-the-Bad-and-the-Ugly-4K-Blu-ray/283312/#Review
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The new color grading is essentially a big 'rescue project' that was initiated to fix another party's errors. The folks at Kino Lorber announced that over thirty hours of shot-by-shot grading corrections were performed, and I think that if you have seen their previous Blu-ray release you will immediately recognize the tremendous progress that was made with them. For example, plenty of the indoor and darker footage looks vastly superior, though this did not surprise me at all because just by normalizing the dynamic range of the visuals a significant overall improvement is guaranteed. All ranges of blacks are very clearly superior as well, so the perception of depth becomes quite different, but at least on my system it looked like shadow definition could have been handled better. Now, while the film's new appearance is a lot more attractive, it still has plenty of inconsistencies and entire color values that are off. I am going to highlight some, but I would like to state that given the nature of the 'rescue project' this was practically unavoidable. So, a lot of the daylight footage retains different variations of the problematic yellows and greens that are present on L'Immagine Ritrovata's graded master. I could easily tell that a lot of careful work was done to either suppress or eliminate them and get an overall better color balance, but the negative effects are still detectable. There are a lot of unnatural skin colors; a lot of supporting nuances, and especially ranges of darker ones, that are off; and even plenty of unnatural highlights that disturb the visual balance of the original cinematography. (You can see examples in screencaptures #1, 11, and 25). Elsewhere saturation level can be off as well, frequently causing different and much bigger inconsistencies. For example, a cigar smoke can appear oddly colored (see the very heavy blues in screencapture #16), or an entire segment can have wrong and/or oversaturated primaries (see the very strong and unnatural greens in screencapture #23). In other words, while there are plenty of nice improvements, in different areas throughout the film there are small and big inconsistencies that can produce some very unusual anomalies as well. Ultimately, at present this is the best technical presentation of the film on the home video market, but I think that it is not the definitive presentation of the film.



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« #393 : May 30, 2021, 01:30:19 AM »

The scenes in.the extended cut featuring. Angel Eyes at the fort and the extended dialog scenes with the Union Captain are important but otherwise I prefer the International cut.
If I had the expertise I would add those scenes for my personal preferred cut.
It can be standard DVD format.
Anyone here want to to that.for me?
I have some cool stuff I could give you in return#

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« #394 : June 12, 2021, 11:13:59 AM »

This is well worth reading: https://trailersfromhell.com/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-4k/

Erickson not only critiques the new disc, he also gives some background on the previous MGM editions (he was involved with the making of those now-vintage supplements).



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« #395 : June 13, 2021, 06:42:23 AM »

This is well worth reading: https://trailersfromhell.com/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-4k/

Erickson not only critiques the new disc, he also gives some background on the previous MGM editions (he was involved with the making of those now-vintage supplements).

Yes, well worth reading.

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« #396 : June 13, 2021, 10:05:22 AM »

interesting


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