New Kino Lorber FOD DVD/BRD

[dave jenkins]

https://vimeo.com/276654131

I put together a quick video that shows some of the alternate footage that's been released on Italian dvd/web compared to the original.

Hot damn!

[Jordan Krug]

any one got this? what is the NEW Original Outtakes, Re-takes & Hidden Gems?
please new cut scenes?

Nope. Same video of outtake clips that's been available on YouTube since 2014. A missed opportunity, I would have loved to see the original deleted opening.

[dave jenkins]

Specs:

A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS (1964)

DISC 1 (4KUHD)
? Over 24 hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading of the logarithmic restored 4K files provided by L?Immagine Ritrovata
? Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
? Audio Commentary by Noted Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
? 5.1 Surround and Original 2.0 Mono
? Triple-Layered UHD100 Disc
? Optional English Subtitles

DISC 2 (BLU-RAY)
? Over 24 Hours of extensive shot-by-shot color grading of the logarithmic restored 4K files provided by L?Immagine Ritrovata
? Audio Commentary by Novelist and Critic Tim Lucas
? Audio Commentary by Noted Film Historian Sir Christopher Frayling
? Interview with Actress Marianne Koch
? The Christopher Frayling Archives: A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
? A New Kind of Hero
? A Few Weeks in Spain: Clint Eastwood on the Experience of Making the Film
? Tre Voci: Three Friends Remember Sergio Leone
? Not Ready for Primetime: Renowned Filmmaker Monte Hellman Discusses the Television Broadcast of A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
? The Network Prologue with Harry Dean Stanton
? Location Comparisons: Then to Now
? TRAILERS FROM HELL with John Badham
? A FISTFUL in Pictures Image Gallery
? Promoting A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS Image Gallery
? A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS On the Set Image Gallery
? Archival Outtakes
? Radio Spots
? Double Bill Trailer
? Theatrical Trailer
? 5.1 Surround and Original 2.0 Mono
? Double-Layered BD50 Disc
? Optional English Subtitles

Over at blu-ray.com, a poster calling himself "Kino Lorber Insider" made this additional comment:

The FISTFUL OF DOLLARS restoration was done by L?Immagine Ritrovata a few years ago, we had released that master on Blu-ray in 2018.

This time around instead of color grading the UHD Pro Res file, we decided to go back a step and receive the logarithmic restored 4K files, the delivery of these file and the needed conform cost us an additional $10K or so, but since the mastering house recommended it and said the final result would be much better, we decided to go ahead.

[dave jenkins]

Robert Harris: https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/a-few-words-about-tm-a-fistful-of-dollars-for-a-few-dollars-more-in-4k-uhd.375711/

[dave jenkins]

This reviewer likes the new KL 1080p transfer (which comes with the UHD) better than the "2018" disc. Unhappily, he doesn't compare it with the Ripley's, which of course has been the standard until now. But at least we know the BD uses the same new scan used for the UHD.

https://ultrahd.highdefdigest.com/103110/afistfulofdollars4kultrahdbluray.html

[dave jenkins]

Beaver compares new disc with Ripley's; very similar. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film10/blu-ray_review_151/a_fistful_of_dollars_4K_UHD.htm

[drinkanddestroy]

Beaver compares new disc with Ripley's; very similar. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film10/blu-ray_review_151/a_fistful_of_dollars_4K_UHD.htm

Looks like the faces are redder in Kino

[dave jenkins]

Savant: https://trailersfromhell.com/a-fistful-of-dollars-for-a-few-dollars-more-4k/

[dave jenkins]

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/A-Fistful-of-Dollars-4K-Blu-ray/295148/#Review

Oddly, although that site reviewed the new FAFDM and gave the PQ a 4.5/5, AFOD only gets a 3.5/5.

I think that most people will be relieved to see that after the adjustments there is a pretty dramatic shift in the color temperature of the visuals and that they are closer to where they need to be. The first thirty to forty minutes of the film, in particular, frequently offer some quite well-balanced visuals that can almost convince that the damage that was done at L'immagine Ritrovata was effectively reversed. The problem is that a lot of the 'good' visuals are paired with various not so good visuals and the inconsistencies that emerge quickly begin to reveal the bigger picture, which is that the old grade has destabilized all sorts of different areas. Sometimes it is the overall dynamic range of the visuals, sometimes it is darker nuances, and sometimes it could be just a range of nuances that do not look right and introduce a temporary but extremely awkward temperature switch. (For example, you can have a quick switch from the perfect blue sky in screencapture #15 to a completely neutral background like the one seen in screencapture #18). Starting with the nighttime party hosted by Ram?n Rojo, however, the visuals begin to lose their organic appearance as well. Yes, some are still decent, but the majority are not. In nighttime footage, but elsewhere as well, there are creamy yellows and plenty of anemic greens and browns that basically give the visuals are a very artificial appearance that would be suitable for a contemporary western shot on a budget. (See screencaptures #3, 20, and 23). In addition to looking odd, some visuals clearly struggle with the 'new' dynamic range that has been introduced with the new grade as well. (See screencaptures #25, 26, 27, 28, and 30). In these areas, the visuals quite simply do not look like they come from a film shot on 35mm stock in 1964. The rest is fine because the restored files have strong underlying qualities, but given the massive inconsistencies on display these strengths are largely irrelevant.