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« #30 : May 14, 2024, 08:25:24 AM »

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Paramount is back, and they've outdone themselves with their new 4k UHD of Once Upon a Time in the West, a film so magnificent in every detail, that it begged for perfection, and received it.

Techniscope haters need not apply here, as I've been trying to raise public awareness that what has been seen in a few problematic transfer is Not what Techniscope is all about.

As shot by Tonino Delli Colli, presumably from a fully exposed negative, results on this disc are BLOODY GORGEOUS.

Acutely resolved, with brilliant colors and rich blacks, OUaTitW may the film that makes believers of naysayers. I recall seeing the film at Telluride forty years ago, and the quality has never left me.

Originally a monaural relese, the new disc sports a DTS-HD MA 5.1 track that is awe inspiring.

For those unaware, just grab a copy and be amazed. And be prepared for an opening that oddly harkens back to Psycho.

Extraordinary direction from Sergio Leone, a great score by Ennis Morricone, beautifully edited by Nino Baragli, and with a cast to die for:

Henry Fonda, Claudia Cardinale, Jason Robards, Charles Bronson, Woody Strode, Jack Elam, Keenan Wynn...

And a story by Dario Argento and Bernardo Bertolucci.

Shot in Mexico, Arizona, Spain, Utah, Italy and Paramount Studios on Melrose.

An absolutely Amazing release!

Image ? 10 (Dolby Vision)

Audio ? 10 (DTS-HD MA 5.1)

Pass / Fail ? Pass

Plays nicely with projectors - Yes

Makes use of and works well in 4k - 9

Upgrade from Blu-ray - Yes

Worth your attention - 10

Slipcover rating - 3

Very Highly Recommended

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« #31 : May 14, 2024, 08:59:40 AM »

what's the difference between this https://t.ly/nvLtM

and this https://t.ly/xUEA3

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« #32 : May 14, 2024, 11:35:40 AM »

$38.20. I don't usually do math problems, but for you I made an exception.



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« #33 : May 15, 2024, 12:03:44 AM »

$38.20. I don't usually do math problems, but for you I made an exception.

Thanks. What would I do without you?

I just took a closer look. It seems the more expensive one is from Europe and includes  "six art cards, a collectible "Morton" train sign and a vintage fold out photograph of the rail road."

Looks like it's either sold out or not available yet on Amazon.co.uk https://t.ly/ETBxV

In France it's 70 euros https://t.ly/xLRd_

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« #34 : May 23, 2024, 12:48:45 AM »

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-Upon-a-Time-in-the-West-4K-Blu-ray/355951/#Review

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Paramount's somewhat schizophrenic UHD quality variations seem to come to a head with Once Upon a Time in the West, a 2160p/Dolby Vision transfer that is very clearly an upgrade from the previous Blu-ray (and even the included Blu-ray, which appears to be newly sourced from this same master) but it also appears to be far from the ideal. It's a decidedly good UHD, far ahead of more uninspired catalogue UHD releases like Planes, Trains & Automobiles but also vastly underperforming from the ideal that the studio can reach, as was evidenced in the recently released and mesmerizing UHD version of The Crow.

The picture appears rock solid at-a-glance, yielding what can be very high levels of complex detail that present faces with the sort of telltale complexity and depth that scream "UHD" while clothing is also satisfyingly dense and detailed, especially considering the wear and tear on the various Western attire elements seen throughout the film, Wooden structures show plenty of wear, and the rough, sandy, and rocky terrain also present very good tactile definition. However, the image definitely has its shortcomings which are obvious upon closer inspection. Grain is not prominent at all, but the image does not have that grotesquely scrubbed over appearance, either. At times the sense of fine grain is very evident. Look at a shot of Jill at the 1:35:55 mark, but then look at a shot two seconds prior where some blue sky looks to be defined by digital chunks rather than natural grain. Paramount has squeezed the 166-minute film on a BD-66 disc, hardly the ideal for a picture that needs more breathing room. It's clear that some corners were cut, and the result is a disappointing "good not great" image.

The Dolby Vision color grading does give the palette a nice boost. Depth and tonal intensity are enhanced here compared to the Blu-ray (either the old one or the new one included here), which are especially vital for a movie of this sort what with its predominance of warm woods, dusty terrain, and sweaty earthy colors. The added depth and punch is never overdone but rather gives the image a richness in its ruggedness, a realism in its realm that amplifies the color specifics but never overwhelms the viewer. It's a tasteful application that enhances the film rather than redefine it in any way. Black levels are solid if not inching to crush in a few spots. White balance is fine, and skin tones take on a slight natural warmth in line with the movie's visual mood.

I will offer just a few words on the new Blu-ray. It looks quite nice, but in direct comparisons is clearly lacking the fine detail level and deeper coloring that the 2160p resolution and Dolby Vision grading offer to the UHD, but that's obviously to be expected. The Blu-ray holds its own for good detail and good color depth, and is very watchable and, maybe in some ways, even mildly preferable if only for the better compression that is evident throughout. Take a look at that aforementioned sky shot at the 1:35:53 mark. The compression issues in the sky are much less in-your-face, and that holds for just about any example where the compression issues are more obvious on the UHD. This Blu-ray looks very nice, and if there could have been a merger between the "better" compression on the Blu-ray and the superior resolution and color expression on the UHD, the result might just have been the definitive UHD this film so clearly deserves.

Note that this disc would not play on my reference Panasonic DP-UB9000, which marks yet another Paramount UHD disc that refuses to play on this otherwise reliable machine. Playback was instead through an old backup Oppo UDP-203 player.




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« #35 : May 23, 2024, 12:42:31 PM »

 ::) ::)That last paragraph

?Note that this disc would not play on my reference Panasonic DP-UB9000, which marks yet another Paramount UHD disc that refuses to play on this otherwise reliable machine. Playback was instead through an old backup Oppo UDP-203 player.?

could be a dealbreaker for me. I have a SONY (region-free) UHD player. If it doesn?t play on that ? and how can I know if it will? ? this is of no use to me.

I?ll probably get it anyway, just cuz I am a Leone completist  ::) Then I?ll get the next one in a few years ?.


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« #36 : May 24, 2024, 05:29:34 AM »

As long as you don't have the Panasonic DP-UB9000 player you should be OK. You've got a Sony, right. This guy is just alerting us to the fact that there's a problem with a particular model. There's no reason to assume that any other model or brand should be affected.

When is the party at your place? Where is your place now? I hope it isn't in Baltimore . . . .



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« #37 : May 24, 2024, 06:51:05 AM »

I'm a Tech Idiot, still have a Flip Phone but I have updated to Windows 10 within the last year.

I have a Sony Blu-Ray disc player, at least a decade old (don't have the model number available right now).  So do UHD discs play on this or am I a decade behind?

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« #38 : May 24, 2024, 10:46:00 AM »

UHD discs won't play on a blu-ray player. You need a UHD player, as well as a 4K TV to view in 4K.


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« #39 : May 24, 2024, 04:26:50 PM »

If you get a uhd player, get one that is region-free. It will cost more but you can play anything on it. Any uhd, brd, or dvd from any region.

(I am trying to be careful and not use contractions because of the damn apostrophe issue  >:D)


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« #40 : May 25, 2024, 12:14:33 AM »

So it won't work on my 1979. gramophone... Jeez...

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« #41 : May 25, 2024, 06:10:45 AM »

UHD discs won't play on a blu-ray player. You need a UHD player, as well as a 4K TV to view in 4K.
That rules me out - TWICE !!!!

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