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« : October 23, 2006, 04:17:01 PM »

Allright i dont know if this has been discussed but remember at the end when we see Harmonicas brother then it cuts to 3 or 4 peoples faces. Do you guys think those faces are the ones that Harmonica metioned earlier? Like Dave Jenkins and so on.

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« #1 : October 23, 2006, 04:25:02 PM »

That's a good theory. I mean, Frank looks like he's killed a lot of people in his ripe age. It doesn't seem like he would so prominently remember the names of all the people he killed, but if they were members of his gang, and he was particularly close to them, it would explain the shocked look on his face when Harmonica says "Dave Jenkins" and "Calder Benson."

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« #2 : October 24, 2006, 04:54:54 AM »

Good idea!



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« #3 : October 24, 2006, 02:43:36 PM »

Isn't one of them Benito Steffanelli though?

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« #4 : October 24, 2006, 04:05:05 PM »

Isn't one of them Benito Steffanelli though?


No. Steffanelli is part of Frank's new gang.




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« #5 : October 25, 2006, 12:42:51 PM »

I've heard that theory, but I don't buy it.  They're just some dudes. . .



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« #6 : October 25, 2006, 01:14:13 PM »

Let's put it this way: there is no reason to suppose that the Monument Valley gang consists of Dave Jenkins, Calder Benson, et. al. There is nothing to prevent that understanding, however.



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« #7 : October 25, 2006, 09:27:09 PM »

Besides Dave Jenkins and the other guy being in that same gang that killed Harmonica's brother, how else would he know the other people Frank has killed?

Actually. that gives his character a more mystical feeling.
I'm gonna go with that it's not the same guys. Either way, it's pretty trivial.


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« #8 : October 25, 2006, 09:37:51 PM »

when you think about it depends on how you see Harmonica.Personally i think hes the avenging angel not only for his brother but for everyone else Frank killed.But thats just me.

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« #9 : October 26, 2006, 12:17:01 PM »

Nope.  Those bums were just members of Frank's gang when Frank was just starting out.  I'm sure Frank had several iterations of gang members.

Dave Jenkins and the other names were murdered by Frank along the way as Frank's ambitions and stature grew.  Harmonica is actually a stalker, if you think about it.  Watching and studying Frank throughout the years, keeping up with his kills, rapes, thefts, etc.  Nothing mystical, just getting his revenge at the end.  Snubbing an evil man out of this world is Harmonica's mission.

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« #10 : October 26, 2006, 09:25:17 PM »

Nope.  Those bums were just members of Frank's gang when Frank was just starting out.  I'm sure Frank had several iterations of gang members.

Dave Jenkins and the other names were murdered by Frank along the way as Frank's ambitions and stature grew.  Harmonica is actually a stalker, if you think about it.  Watching and studying Frank throughout the years, keeping up with his kills, rapes, thefts, etc.  Nothing mystical, just getting his revenge at the end.  Snubbing an evil man out of this world is Harmonica's mission.

So do you think thats hes a mortal?

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« #11 : October 27, 2006, 03:17:25 AM »

The way he pops up after shot at the Cattle Corner Station is supernatural.


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« #12 : October 27, 2006, 02:57:43 PM »

Or merely a genre convention.



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« #13 : October 27, 2006, 06:52:02 PM »

Or merely a genre convention.

Or how about when Jills at the McBain house and hears Harmonica playing his harmonica and then a match is struck and jill shoots him almost point blank with a 2 gauge shotgun(was it?) and then the match falls but we still hear Harmonica playing his harmonica.

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« #14 : October 28, 2006, 06:28:12 AM »

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Besides Dave Jenkins and the other guy being in that same gang that killed Harmonica's brother, how else would he know the other people Frank has killed?

  I always assumed Harmonica has been following Frank around all these years so he would know what's he been up to, including men he has killed.  If Harmonica's in a town and finds out about a murder that sounds similar to how Frank handles things, he could piece everything together......Frank killed another one.

  However, I do put some merit in the Harmonica supernatural possibilities.  As an Angel of Death, he'd know all those names.  And cigar's right, the way he pops up after being shot at Cattle Corner is very supernatural. 

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