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« : June 21, 2007, 05:19:41 PM »

Anybody see a problem with this list? http://afi.aol.com/cgi-bin/afi-top10/top100.cgi



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« #1 : June 21, 2007, 05:22:33 PM »

Anybody see a problem with this list? http://afi.aol.com/cgi-bin/afi-top10/top100.cgi


1.The only westerns worth mentioning on there are UNFORGIVEN and SHANE.

2.A Leone film is non-existant.

3.And most of the titles mentioned don't belong on a top 100 anything.



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« #2 : June 21, 2007, 05:52:02 PM »

No, I came across it on the CinemaRetro site.

To be sure, the failure to include either or both OUATITW and OUATIA (the only 2 Leone films that qualify) is a travesty. Proof once again that AFI is run by a bunch of old people.



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To be sure, the failure to include either or both OUATITW and OUATIA (the only 2 Leone films that qualify)


Not GBU? or DYS?




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« #4 : June 21, 2007, 05:59:56 PM »

Those are European films. Only U.S. productions qualify.



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« #5 : June 21, 2007, 06:10:12 PM »

Glad I didn't watch that show.  There are questionables on a list of 100 great American films.  Looks to be way too much Spielberg on there.  It seems to be more of a people's choice awards list than the previous 100.

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« #6 : June 21, 2007, 08:03:28 PM »

Yes, this list is just for American made films so don't get pissed. What I'm pissed about was the fact that Alien, The Ten Commandments, American Beauty, and Braveheart are no where to be found. This list is SHIT if you ask me.




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« #7 : June 22, 2007, 02:37:00 AM »

Firecracker, you missed out The Wild Bunch. ;)
Dave Jenkins what is the procedure in order to become one of the Hundred best American movies of all times?
For example;
1.screenwriter I wonder if he has to be born in USA/or living in USA when he made his script?
2.director; does he has to be US citizen or he can be from another country?
3.producents: movie must be released under some american producents or....?
For example Babel 2006. The origine of this movie is France (at least on IMDB), but they also credited USA and Mexico. Various languages are spoken in this movie, so whose film Babel really is? American? France? or Arabic?
My point is this:
How can someone decide that one particular movie only belongs to a certain country? Is it because the producers (guys with a money?), or is it because the guy who wrote the script happens to be from that country?
Or because the language in that movie? Or it all depends on nationality of the director?
Which parameters AFI is using in order to select thiese movies?
For instanse, what about Charlie Chaplin's movies? If I remember correctly he made his movies in Hollywood, but I didn't saw him on this list.

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« #8 : June 22, 2007, 03:06:13 AM »

didn't go beyond number ten: Raging Bull and Schindler's List in the top ten?


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« #9 : June 22, 2007, 04:19:36 AM »

Uh,I forgot to post this yesterday,I had it prepared.

Some movies really shouldn't be there,placed so high...many movies to be precise...

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« #10 : June 22, 2007, 04:50:33 AM »

I'm pretty sure that at least OUATITW isn't counted as American film.
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For instanse, what about Charlie Chaplin's movies? If I remember correctly he made his movies in Hollywood, but I didn't saw him on this list.
If I remember right I saw two: City Lights and Modern Times.


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« #11 : June 22, 2007, 12:02:52 PM »

I'm pretty sure that at least OUATITW isn't counted as American film. If I remember right I saw two: City Lights and Modern Times.

I'd say GOLD RUSH is better than either of those.




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« #12 : June 22, 2007, 12:35:32 PM »

I'd say GOLD RUSH is better than either of those.
Oh, and that was on the list, too, I checked. I can't say which I like the most, though it's been awhile since I saw Gold Rush. But I really can't understand how City Lights is #11. Yes, a great movie, but 11th best American film ever? No.


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« #13 : June 22, 2007, 01:46:53 PM »

Is it because the producers (guys with a money?)
Something along these lines. It's an American film if the production company is established in the U.S. I'm not sure about co-productions, where one or more production partners are headquartered overseas. Maybe 50% or more ownership has to be with a U.S. company? Perhaps Leone Admirer can help us out here.

Anyway, OUATITW and OUATIA qualify (somehow) under AFI guidelines. Both appeared on AFI's Top 250 Film Scores list.



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« #14 : June 22, 2007, 03:17:31 PM »

So they could have been on that list?! Now I'm pissed.


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