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« #10755 : July 30, 2012, 09:13:15 AM »

Bolt was open about Brecht's influence on Man, particularly Galileo. There's even a deliberate misquote (the line about "a land that needs no heroes") in Bolt's play.

Of course there are substantial differences between the two plays. Bolt's drama is more individualized, focusing on More's personal dilemma. The actual effects of the English Reformation are kept offstage and scarcely discussed. Brecht is more concerned with the broader implications of Galileo's work than his unremarkable character.

Of course, that's very much Brecht's point. We can sympathize with Galileo but don't especially admire him, by design. It's a deliberately anti-heroic Marxist drama, placing ideas ahead of individuals. On the other hand, Man is a triumphalist piece with a very clear protagonist. Bolt's play is dramatically superior but its central conflict is easier to digest.

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« #10756 : July 30, 2012, 10:08:45 AM »

Bolt's drama is more individualized, focusing on More's personal dilemma.
Exactly. But I said it better.



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« #10757 : July 30, 2012, 10:30:11 AM »

Perhaps, but you seem to value one approach over the other, whereas I do not.



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« #10758 : July 30, 2012, 08:55:22 PM »

The Dark Knight Rises - 6-7/10 - Memo to Christopher Nolan: learn how to fucking end a movie. Things start out fine, with a cool opening, Batman showing half-believable character development and Anne Hathaway as a surprisingly alluring Catwoman. Everything's in place for a good flick, with the right balance of fun and intensity. Then Bane shows up, takes over Gotham, throws Batman in a hole, and things take a nosedive. The second half is packed with hamfisted political content, with Bane imposing a Jacobin regime complete with show trials and roving murder squads. Then comes a twist so asinine I shouted "Oh come on!" Add near-useless characters like *spoiler* Batman's untrustworthy gal pal and the Man Who Would Be Robin to pad things. Never mind either giant plot holes like the entire police force being left alive underground with firearms (!!!). Throw in Nolan brand skull-crushing exposition (monologues *over* flashbacks!?! genius!) in case viewers aren't sufficiently insulted. Nolan came this close to making a good Batman flick. You get an A for effort but a D for execution.

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« #10759 : August 01, 2012, 07:26:29 AM »

Just saw La Dolce Vita for the first time. Good times. But the bad thing about subtitles is that, especially in a movie that is very talky at times, you're looking at the subtitles and not the image.


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« #10760 : August 02, 2012, 12:42:56 AM »

 The Deer Hunter (1978) 10/10

My first viewing of this movie, and I was absolutely blown away!!!

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How many movie deaths can you think of that are more poignant than Walken's? How many movie scenes can you think of that are more poignant than his funeral? How many movie scenes involving weddings/community dances are more beautiful than the one in this movie? How many such scenes are that long yet keep you interested every second? How many movies have such an amazing sense of location?

Not many.


This is quite simply a masterpiece.


As for the controversy over the portrayal of the Viet Cong, specifically with the Russian Roulette. I have no idea whether the Viet Cong actually forced people to play Russian Roulette. However, as far as the people who whined about the portrayal of the North Vietnamese as all bad and the Americans all noble: what I DO know is that the Viet Cong were brutal, and that their treatment of POW's certainly did not reflect any concern for what we view consider to be acceptable treatment of POW's, (to put it mildly).  So the fact that the Commies were portrayed as being brutal, well yeah, that's a portrayal that's well deserved. Even if the Russian Roulette games didn't really happen, the point is that it is not inaccurate to portray them as vicious, brutal people. It doesn't mean that America was all 100% noble; the film can actually be seen as a strong indictment of the brutalities of war. And the fact that it was such lovely people as Julie Christie and Hanoi Jane Fonda that whined about the movie (and Fonda said she never even saw the movie!) tells you all you need to know. Yeah Hanoi Jane, the movie should have depicted the Viet Cong's POW camps as lavish resorts, right?  ::) And that useless human being Pauline Kael, comparing this supposedly unfair portrayal of the North Vietnamese to what she apparently believes to be the equally unfair portrayal of the Japanese in WWII movies: you know what, Pauline, the Japanese WERE brutal in WWII. Their POW camps were indeed horrific. Yeah, the Japanese in WWII should indeed be portrayed as evil, just as the Commies in Vietnam should.
It's a pretty good rule of thumb: you've probably done something right when people like Pauline Kael, Julie Christie, and Jane Fonda oppose it  ;)




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« #10761 : August 02, 2012, 03:14:59 AM »

How about the Vietcong speaking Thai instead of Vietnamese?

Horrible, horrible movie.



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« #10762 : August 02, 2012, 04:36:43 AM »

How about the Vietcong speaking Thai instead of Vietnamese?

Horrible, horrible movie.

I don't know anything about South Asian languages, so I couldn't pick that up.


Can you elaborate on why you disliked the movie? Ie. it because of your disagreement with the Vietnamese portrayals and the Russian Roulette, and/or from an artistic perspective you didn't even like the scenes in America? or something else? Because if you think there was a major distortion of history -- and you generally know about that stuff far more than I do -- that's one thing; but otherwise I don't see how you can say this was a horrible movie.



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« #10763 : August 02, 2012, 11:21:51 AM »

Masterpiece for me.

The only flaw is that Cimino did not cut from the deer hunting directly to the camera movement down the river which ends in the POW camp. Instead to that superfluous scene where they got caught.

But I have no problem to call it a racist film in parts. It is one.


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« #10764 : August 02, 2012, 11:24:37 AM »

I'll save time and say I hated everything about it.



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« #10765 : August 03, 2012, 10:36:33 AM »

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) 9/10 (second viewing)

-- The only thing I didn't like were the silly and useless bits of narration that suddenly pop up out of nowhere in the last few minutes.
-- I am surprised that Ford did not actually shoot the officers' dance at the end.
-- The stuff that would usually annoy me, like the love story and drunken fight, did not bother me at all here.  
-- Wayne is great as always, McLaglen is hilarious, and Ben Johnson and the rest of the supporting cast are good too.
-- I still think this one is a notch below Fort Apache.

What a joy to watch!  O0 O0

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« #10766 : August 03, 2012, 02:53:15 PM »

Stagecoach (1939) 10/10 (second viewing)

What can you say other than, this is a classic. The first great Western (at least that I've seen). And an amazing score.

A few criticisms: Andy Devine is horribly annoying (and it would only get worse in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance). The Donald Meek character does nothing for the movie. And so many of the shots of the stagecoach during the battle are rear-projections, and the speed on the projection isn't nearly fast enough for the speeds that the coach is moving.
Also, with the bank president who steals the payroll: as it is in the movie, we see him stealing it, and the sheriff is suspicious of why he is leaving town, etc. Wouldn't it have been better if the viewer didn't know this all along -- ie. if we just see him getting on the stage, the sheriff wondering once why he is in such a hurry to leave town (to give us the necessary hint), but then no further mention of it until they get to the town at the end, where suddenly he is arrested and we see the money in his bag! That would explain everything, why he's in such a rush all along; and it would have been better than how it is in the movie, where we know everything all along. Finally, when the guy walks into the bar after Wayne kills him, he had no bullet wound. I slowed down the movie and watched it several times; there's no wound on back or front. Wayne was facing him and would have shot him in front, so it's inexcusable that we see him face the camera for what's probably a solid ten seconds and do not see any bullet wound on him.
Anyway, that's all; this is just a wonderful movie!

Everyone talks about Yakima Canutt's famous stunt, jumping from a moving horse onto the fleeing stagecoach horses. But what I don't understand is how, after completing that stunt, Canutt fell to the ground between the horses, and had the horses and stage pass over him, and not expect to be trampled by them? btw, Canutt also doubled for Wayne in the stunt where Wayne's character jumps from the stage onto the horses, and then to the front pair.

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« #10767 : August 04, 2012, 02:07:30 AM »

The Dark Knight Rises 3.5/10

The Dark Knight had three things going for it: cool supporting cast, cool bad guy, and it was action packed enough to hide the fact that it wasn't intelligent at all). The Dark Knight Rises has none of that.

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Oldman, Caine, Freeman and the like are still ├╝bercool. They can still put you on their side with a single smile. But their character now suck so much: there is not a single coherent character in the whole movie. None of their action makes any sense at all. Caine resigning at the worst moment of Wayne's life? Catwoman alternating from bad ass robber (most of the time) to scared little baby (every time something contradicts her plans), and her change of mind at the end of the movie? Oldman's friend deciding to be a good cop after all, out of nowhere? The cops deciding to charge without guns (although no one took their guns from them if I remind correctly) in front of machine guns? The machine guns guys deciding NOT to shoot at them but (also) to charge at them instead? Cotillard and Hardy deciding to spend 10 years of their life with a huge plan to erase Gotham City (a plan that includes building a military base under the city without anyone noticing and setting up a revolution)... uh... what for, exactly? And if they really really wanted so hard so very very hard to turn Gotham into ashes... why didn't they just do it? They had access to the reactor quite easily. And no i don't buy the "there is no true despair without hope", nonsense because, hey, if you have hope, there is no despair. Why not making everyone starving to death BUT feeding them at the same time because "there is no real starvation without food"? And the list goes on and on.

Cool Bad Guy

Come on. He's... uh... bad...? and... strong? Hey, I like that!

An intelligent, action-packed movie

Like everyone said, there is absolutely no action at all in this movie. And the very rare action scenes are so slow, badly conceived and terribly shot that they are a pain to watch. So now we're left alone with the "intelligent" part of the movie. And here comes the problem: it's not intelligent at all. The characters and their actions do not make any sense, we've seen this before, but the whole sociology thing is... empty as hell.

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« #10768 : August 04, 2012, 02:51:46 AM »

The Dark Knight Rises 3.5/10

I'll give it 6/10.

I had absolutely zero expectations about it so I can't say I was disappointed. The movie hold my attention surprisingly well given the 164 min running time and the overwhelming stupidity of the whole thing. I can say I was entertained.

Well crafted cinematography, editing and set design. The usual Hans Zimmer crap for music. Nolan's attention to details makes surprisingly well up for his disregard for greater arcs. And Hathaway looks hot in black. 


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« #10769 : August 04, 2012, 02:59:32 AM »

And Hathaway looks hot in black. 

+2.5/10

So we agree :)


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